Creatio Ex Nihilo

[questfortruth]

Ex nihilo is Latin for "out of nothing": when phrased as ex nihilo nihil fit, "nothing comes from nothing"; creatio ex nihilo, "creation out of nothing", it means that matter is not eternal but had to be created by uncaused cause, frequently defined as God.[1]

Creation ex nihilo is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist: the Big Bang theory, by contrast, is a "scientific" theory; it offers no explanation of cosmic existence but only a description of the first few moments of that existence.[2]

Ex nihilo - Wikipedia

My mathematical description is here:
Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112

The human quest for truth was named Natural Theology, but in the 16-th century, it was renamed Science by adopting the new method: atheism, namely methodological naturalism. It means, to look only for divine-less explanations and theories. Atheism was born as the method of Science.

One could reply to that argument: "Tell that to devoted theists who believe that science is the lens through which the glory and beauty of creation is known."

The science is secular. There is separation between reason and faith. One can not use religious dogmas in science. But they were used in Natural Theology prior to 16-th century. The 16-th century has "murdered the God."

One has asked provocatively: "Where did God come from?"

God is Love. Wherefrom the Spirit of Love come from? He was always there.

why can't the Universe have always been there?

Google: "Big Bang". Do not equate God and Universe.

 

[Fool]

Ex nihilo is Latin for "out of nothing": when phrased as ex nihilo nihil fit, "nothing comes from nothing"; creatio ex nihilo, "creation out of nothing", it means that matter is not eternal but had to be created by uncaused cause, frequently defined as God.[1]

Creation ex nihilo is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist: the Big Bang theory, by contrast, is a "scientific" theory; it offers no explanation of cosmic existence but only a description of the first few moments of that existence.[2]

Ex nihilo - Wikipedia

My mathematical description is here:
Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112

ex nihilo is a farce. god is part of how creation comes to be; so it cannot be said it comes from nothing; if God is anything, something and part of the process.


so some sort of expenditure is required by the said god for creation to even exist in part with some supposed nothingness

 

[Windwalker]

ex nihilo is a farce. god is part of how creation comes to be; so it cannot be said it comes from nothing; if God is anything, something.

But God is "no-thing". If God were a "thing", God would be something created. So, things coming from God, is coming from no-thing, or nothing, or ex-nihilo.

 

[stvdv]

Ex nihilo is Latin for "out of nothing": when phrased as ex nihilo nihil fit, "nothing comes from nothing"; creatio ex nihilo, "creation out of nothing", it means that matter is not eternal but had to be created by uncaused cause, frequently defined as God.[1]

Creation ex nihilo is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist: the Big Bang theory, by contrast, is a "scientific" theory; it offers no explanation of cosmic existence but only a description of the first few moments of that existence.[2]

Ex nihilo - Wikipedia

My mathematical description is here:
Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112

Nice and concise

In both cases we humans are still at a loss how the Universe came to exist. We can just assume and believe.

 

[Fool]

But God is "no-thing". If God were a "thing", God would be something created. So, things coming from God, is coming from no-thing, or nothing, or ex-nihilo.

you're incorrect. being is not necessarily a thing, a noun, when it's a verb. that is why the name in exodus 3:14 is a verb.

it is a being(verb) 1st and only a being(noun) secondarily


so a being that is capable of constantly recreating itself is not only the uncreated but its also the creator and the created. the Absolute is self-perpetuating, is being

 

[ChristineM]

Ex nihilo is Latin for "out of nothing": when phrased as ex nihilo nihil fit, "nothing comes from nothing"; creatio ex nihilo, "creation out of nothing", it means that matter is not eternal but had to be created by uncaused cause, frequently defined as God.[1]

Creation ex nihilo is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist: the Big Bang theory, by contrast, is a "scientific" theory; it offers no explanation of cosmic existence but only a description of the first few moments of that existence.[2]

Ex nihilo - Wikipedia

My mathematical description is here:
Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112

Wrong, the big bang is a hypothesis, or more correctly, several hypothesis each based on mathematics or current observation and extrapolation. Any one could be the "how", but one thing us for sure, prior to 10e-43 of a second after the event, no one knows.

Here us one hereof those hypothesis (actually its not yet a hypothesis, more an idea based on mathematical fact and quantum mechanics.

Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing

 

[Unveiled Artist]

you're incorrect. being is not necessarily a thing, a noun, when it's a verb. that is why the name in exodus 3:14 is a verb.

it is a being(verb) 1st and only a being(noun) secondarily


so a being that is capable of constantly recreating itself is not only the uncreated but its also the creator and the created. the Absolute is self-perpetuating, is being

The nature of it is a verb. Referring to nature by it, god, pronoun is for convenience but not an end to itself.

 

[Fool]

The nature of it is a verb. Referring to nature by it, god, pronoun is for convenience but not an end to itself.

yes,


the original is undefinable, un-nameable, it is the dao that cannot be limited. the god that can be labeled is vanity because the endurable, infinite, eternal ONE is neti, neti.


what love being has joined together, let no man divide

 

[sun rise]

Atheists believe the universe just came to be ex nihilo. Theists believe that God created the universe ex nihilo.

The only difference I can see is between one God and no God. Ex nihilo remains.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

When the phrase was first formulated, the nature of energy was not understood. “Nothing” simply meant “no matter”.

God is energy, and now we know that energy and matter are two sides of the same coin; energy can be harnessed to create matter. (And matter can be fissioned to create energy.)

It helps to explain a lot!

 

[questfortruth]

energy can be harnessed to create matter. (And matter can be fissioned to create energy.)

It is the transformation of energy: the creation of the particles at LHC collider. The particles have rest-energy E0.

 

[questfortruth]

Atheists believe the universe just came to be ex nihilo. Theists believe that God created the universe ex nihilo.

The only difference I can see is between one God and no God. Ex nihilo remains.

The human quest for truth was named Natural Theology, but in the 16-th century, it was renamed Science by adopting the new method: atheism, namely methodological naturalism. It means, to look only for divine-less explanations and theories. Atheism was born as the method of Science.

 

[viole]

Ex nihilo is Latin for "out of nothing": when phrased as ex nihilo nihil fit, "nothing comes from nothing"; creatio ex nihilo, "creation out of nothing", it means that matter is not eternal but had to be created by uncaused cause, frequently defined as God.[1]

Creation ex nihilo is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist: the Big Bang theory, by contrast, is a "scientific" theory; it offers no explanation of cosmic existence but only a description of the first few moments of that existence.[2]

Ex nihilo - Wikipedia

My mathematical description is here:
Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112

“Comes from” requires a space temporal context in order to have meaning. Ergo, it requires an already available universe.

so, any question that asks: where does the universe come from?
Is physically meaningless.

ciao.

- viole

 

[questfortruth]

“Comes from” requires a space temporal context in order to have meaning.

OK. Then "Originates from".

 

[sun rise]

Atheism was born as the method of Science.

Tell that to devoted theists who believe that science is the lens through which the glory and beauty of creation is known.

 

[questfortruth]

Tell that to devoted theists who believe that science is the lens through which the glory and beauty of creation is known.

The science is secular. There is separation between reason and faith. One can not use religious dogmas in science. But they were used in Natural Theology prior to 16-th century. The 16-th century has "murdered the God."

 

[Altfish]

When the phrase was first formulated, the nature of energy was not understood. “Nothing” simply meant “no matter”.

God is energy, and now we know that energy and matter are two sides of the same coin; energy can be harnessed to create matter. (And matter can be fissioned to create energy.)

It helps to explain a lot!

Where did god come from?

 

[Altfish]

ex nihilo is a farce. god is part of how creation comes to be; so it cannot be said it comes from nothing; if God is anything, something and part of the process.


so some sort of expenditure is required by the said god for creation to even exist in part with some supposed nothingness

Where did god come from?

 

[Fool]

Where did god come from?

energy doesn't come into and out of existence. as newton and einstein explained energy is. but the form may change

 

[questfortruth]

Where did god come from?

God is Love. Wherefrom the Spirit of Love come from? He was always there.