Timelli
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Also, who gets to set the standard for innocence verses guiltiness?In the basis that the Bible is false, the debate is not even wrong.
In the basis that the Bible is true, it's an incredibly stupid argument.
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Also, who gets to set the standard for innocence verses guiltiness?In the basis that the Bible is false, the debate is not even wrong.
In the basis that the Bible is true, it's an incredibly stupid argument.
Also, who gets to set the standard for innocence verses guiltiness?
Well it does because that standard decides the justness of an action. If the standard is subjective than I can decide for myself whether killing someone is just or not.That doesn't matter actually. Your argument is sufficently silly that no matter how you spin it, it still turns out silly.
Well it does because that standard decides the justness of an action. If the standard is subjective than I can decide for myself whether killing someone is just or not.
It is painfully obvious he needs to stop practicing homosexuality to avoid more punishments from GodWhat "lesson" are you hoping he learns? That he was wrong about COVID being a punishment for homosexuals, or that he should stop practicing homosexuality to avoid more punishments from God?
So, according to the Bible, God is the standard and we fall very short of that standard making us the guilty and God innocent.Indeed, you are perfectly correct.
In Scripture the person responsible for it all is ->Satan, and by way of extension Adam.Except the person responsible for it all... apparently.
Rather: Satan and Adam are the guilty ones.So, according to the Bible, God is the standard and we fall very short of that standard making us the guilty and God innocent.
As soon as the Biblical God shows up....Also, who gets to set the standard for innocence verses guiltiness?
What do you mean by "pre-human"?Rather: Satan and Adam are the guilty ones.
Because we are 'innocent' of what Satan and Adam did is why God sent pre-human sinless Jesus to Earth fore us.
Jesus will undo all the wrongs Satan and Adam brought upon us -> www.jw.org
Remember: In Scripture God gifted His intelligent creation with free-will choices.
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I would like to take the liberty to add that 'No one is innocent' except for sinless Jesus.The point is no is one innocent from a truly Biblical perspective.
I agree.In Scripture the person responsible for it all is ->Satan, and by way of extension Adam.
Remember: In Scripture God gifted His intelligent creation with free-will choices.
First sinner -> Satan, and Satan wants us humans to worship him.
Adam freely chose to break God's Law and by doing that Adam took the Law out of God's hands.
Thus, Adam put the Law into man's hands and he set up People Rule as superior to God Rule.
Satan challenges all of us ( Job 2:4-5 )
' Touch our 'flesh' ' ( loose physical health ) and we would Not serve God.
Both Job and Jesus under adverse conditions proved Satan a liar and so can we.
So, according to the Bible, God is the standard and we fall very short of that standard making us the guilty and God innocent.
We fall short because of our own choices. The reason for us having the ability to choose comes from the fact that God did not want people that were robots. God wanted a relationship with people who chose to obey Him and reciprocate His love.
In Scripture, God sent His heavenly Son to Earth for us.What do you mean by "pre-human"?
The point is no is one innocent from a truly Biblical perspective.
Well, the poor choices of Satan and Adam.Thus all poor choices are his fault since they were the prices for him having worshipers.
Ah. I see what you mean by 'pre-human'. Thank you for clarifying that. Pre-human has other meanings and I was a bit confused about what you meant.In Scripture, God sent His heavenly Son to Earth for us.
So, Jesus lived in the heavens before his God sent heavenly Jesus to Earth to be born here as a human.
Since No human on Earth could prove to be sinless, then we needed someone to help us.
Help us out get out of the trap of sin and death.
First, the passing of time was needed for us to be born and to think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
Since we can't stop sinning is why we die.
We can't resurrect oneself or another, so we need someone who can resurrect us - Jesus can - Revelation 1:18
This is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come!
Come and undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon us.