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Communists here?

Mehr Licht

Ave Sophia
I have an interest in the more libertarian forms of communism. Still haven't figured things all out when it comes to political theory and practice though. Still investigating.
 

Mehr Licht

Ave Sophia
Both communists and capitalists have one thing in common - they think man's problems can be solved if external material comfort is provided for. Ha ha. The Eastern mystics know better.

Certainly material comfort isn't the be all end all of life but that doesn't imply that politics shouldn't have the material well being of people as one of its key focuses imo. The important spiritual matters are handled more in the arena of the Church (Temple, Synagogue, Mosque, etc..).
 

K.Venugopal

Immobile Wanderer
Certainly material comfort isn't the be all end all of life but that doesn't imply that politics shouldn't have the material well being of people as one of its key focuses imo. The important spiritual matters are handled more in the arena of the Church (Temple, Synagogue, Mosque, etc..).
The communists in their heyday were contemptuous of religions.
 

Mehr Licht

Ave Sophia
The communists in their heyday were contemptuous of religions.
The Marxist tended to be but not all communists follow Marx. There where Christian communes and monasteries that lived in a communist fashion (shared everything equally and in common) before Marx was even born. Not a fan of anti-religous bigotry. I'm also less interested in the more statist "dictatorship of the proletariat" forms of communism. The more libertarian or even anarchist variants hold more attraction for me.
 
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K.Venugopal

Immobile Wanderer
The Marxist tended to be but not all communists follow Marx. There where Christian communes and monasteries that lived in a communist fashion (shared everything equally and in common) before Marx was even born. Not a fan of anti-religous bigotry. I'm also less interested in the more statist "dictatorship of the proletariat" forms of communism. The more libertarian or even anarchist variants hold more attraction for me.
Was the word "communist" in vogue before Karl Marx?
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
I'm a social democrat, but I'm still working towards the class-less communist system (instead of accepting a mixed economy like most European social democratic parties have). I just happen to think that democracy is a better way than revolution.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I'm a small businessman in a small semirural place in the USA. So I wouldn't qualify as Communist. :D

But if such a lifestyle were available and feasible I probably would. The advantages are huge. But around here the options are all too something, religious, rural, druggy.... They just aren't places I'm comfortable beyond visiting.

Tom
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I am a Marxist Communists, from favoring a Communists economy and social structure (which does away with class, national identity, money, equalizes men and women, better and more diverse education, promoting individuality by not being defined as consumers as how corporations see fit, and not being obsessed with collecting excessive amounts of stuff), to the social philosophies of ideology that several Neo-Marxists have made wonderful contributions towards.
Now, I just wish people would quit letting the most obvious of ignorance about Marx and Communist come out of their mouths. Even here people tend to lump all of Communism together with places like Russia and China, revealing they wouldn't know the difference between a Communist and a Fascist if it bit them on the rear.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'm currently weighing up whether to join a Communist party or not. I've been a sympathizer for ten years since reading about it in secondary school and it's been a long time since then. It's still a slow process because I know I'd have to mean it and be comfortable to talk about it with other people and respond to their objections in a healthy way and not feel defensive (as comes kind of naturally with any belief system that inspires deep emotions, especially if it is controversial). It has a history and it's faults are there for all to see. So there is quite a difference between thinking it's cool and looks good on a T-shirt, to actually believing that it could be a good thing as a economic and political system. I'm still learning and I expect I will keep growing in that direction.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I'm gonna have to get around to asking my English teacher if he's a Socialist or Communist. We actually had a discussion about things we think shouldn't be privatized/have a price tag. It fits the college stereotype, but in real life I've never had such a discussion.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's very rare to meet a socialist-communist nowadays and often discussing the finer points of an idea can be pretty hard as a result, so I hope you get an interesting response from you're English Teacher.
I would suggest Revleft.com for an online forum but it's a bit of a cesspool, as most of the people are on there are really young and at each others throats over factional disputes and is pretty vicious. In someways it is a bit of an experience to see the far left in it's natural habitat and that in itself can tell you a lot about the kind of people drawn to these ideas. there is a strange comradarie of "us against them". It's a bit like the lunatics running the asylum. I made a few friends from there who I keep in touch with- but we actually don't talk politics much. There are very few older, more experienced and intellectual mature members on Revleft with which to have discussions like the ones on RF, but some are very knowledgeable.
 
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