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Coca Cola implements training for employees to be less white

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Stevicus, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Stevicus

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    The same statement also said: "The training includes access to the LinkedIn Learning platform on a variety of topics, including on diversity, equity and inclusion. The video in question was accessible on the LinkedIn Learning platform but was not part of the company’s curriculum."

    So, it was there, made available and accessible by the Coca-Cola Company for it's employees. Therefore, they clearly "implemented" it and made it available, even if it wasn't officially part of their mandatory company curriculum. The statement implies that it was there but apparently wasn't required. That doesn't make the headline false. The only real question here is whether it was required or optional, but I see that as a relatively minor point - not one that justifies your precipitous charge of it being a "pack of lies." That's just way over the top.

    Even the statement from Coke implied that the main part of the story was essentially true, even if it contained a minor inaccuracy.

    I think you're missing the forest through the trees here, which is a common misperception when people try to address historical and current injustices which have existed in America since before this nation even existed. I don't like the term "culture war," as I think it's a misnomer and doesn't seem to accurately reflect what's going on. I'm also not fond of the term "political correctness," either, although what I see is that the various attempts to redress racism and other injustices in society is that it has become corporatized and sanitized. I think it's a product of insular corporate groupthink, which is why it falls flat and becomes vulnerable to jeering and mockery by the right.
     
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    Well, racism is not necessarily "caused" by the corporate elites but it is clearly exacerbated and exploited by them. And this does smell of them deflecting responsibility.
     
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    America isn't a black and white issue. There is a strong emphasis on black people, but what of everybody else being repressed? The Natives, for example, get **** on still, are five times more likely to be killed by police, amd we have very little awareness of it. Covid has made it embarrassingly obvious many do not accept Americans of Asian descent as American and they are subject to attack. Hispanics have faced efforts trying to have their language banned from use in government buildings, and they are often assumed to be illegal immigrants.
    But, instead, the Evangelical Left views black people as their version of the Jews, and this is another example of their version of original sin and assuming all are guilty by default.
     
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    It's pathetic that we are going from a point of not judging by skin color but by contents of character, to just judging by skin color and judging everyone based solely on that.
    It really is no different than the Evangelical original sin and how we're born into and guilty and deserving of Hell.
     
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    And I don't think that I have ever used on of those. I am not a huge pop drinker. When I have a Coke it is an occasional treat. They would go broke if customers were like me. I first bought a Mexican Coke fifteen or twenty years ago and I will have between 2 and 5 a year. I have bought a few more recently because sometimes I make pork carnitas and my recipe calls for the Real Thing. In other words, Coca Cola made with sugar and not corn syrup.
     
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    Not even close. When I see such a claim alarm bells go off for me. And that is from either side. For a white person one is just as likely to get killed by a police officer as by a black person:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

    People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2021 | Statista

    The difference is that like it not the vast majority of police killings are justified. Very few cases of black people shooting white people can be justified (self defense is a justification).

    Let's not use bad examples because it harms one's arguments. Is racism a problem in America? Of course, but bad arguments only allow those that disagree with you to score undeserved points.
     
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    I meant more the use of academic material like DiAngelos in non-academic settings for corporate purposes...
    And HR policies and departments (not the good ones, but all too many I see...)

    I had trouble finding out how much of this material was used by Coca Cola, but admit the version of their statement I read made it sound more like everything was being overstated, rather than simply being bunkum.

    In any case, thanks for the info.
     
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    That had me going, because I truly believed for a second that Coca Cola would be stupid enough. I'm always too quick to doubt the intelligence of others. Gets me over and over.!

    I'm glad that I read this post before replying: --> Coca Cola implements training for employees to be less white
     
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    I can understand people not liking the wording of "less white" but I would have to see the whole presentation leading up to that statement for me being up in arms about it. I am guessing one of the slides before that one defined what they mean by "less white."
     
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    You’re throwing a lot of shade at corporate America, deservedly so, but let’s not forget that many governments compel this sort of training as well. Businesses are required by law to do similar trainings in many states.
     
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    What's the 'shade' remark all about? I do appreciate the information about the laws. That's valuable to me. Thank you for that.

    I waste too much time with my own BS, don't need more for the flowerbed this spring. If you respond to this post, start with tying in your shade comment to my post in such a way as to show you were not pettifogging me. That is if you want me to continue reading past however many words I'll need to notice you're not doing that..
     
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    You were critical of corporate America’s virtue signaling and I said you were right to say so. I thought of throwing shade simply as being critical. And I agreed with you. Sometimes it’s ok to throw shade. Some people and organizations deserve it.

    But in any event, I don’t give two ****s if you read my posts or not.
     
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    Why is this news? Everyone knows Coca Cola uses artificial coloring.
     
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    The article touched upon defining "less white" in one of the screenshots:

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    It is interesting that oppression, arrogance, and certitude are considered "white" qualities, although I do find these qualities all across the internet and in real life.
     
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    When I posted the link to the original article, at the time, the Examiner had reached out to Coca-Cola for comment but had not received it yet. A while later, they edited the article to reflect Coca-Cola's statement which acknowledged the existence of this training program and that employees were given access to it, even while claiming that it wasn't part of their official training curriculum. So, the focus and thrust of the OP was essentially true, even if there's still a question as to whether they required it or if it was optional.
     
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    When I was younger, the Civil Rights movement was quite prominent and known to most of the populace. At the time, the primary message was that of equality, freedom, and justice - with the central idea that "skin color doesn't matter." I think it started to go awry when Reagan got into office, and this shifted the focus towards ultra-capitalism and reigniting the class warfare which subsided greatly during WW2 and the decades following it.

    Even if it was purported to be "color blind" and based solely in the capitalist ideology, it still encouraged the dog-eat-dog, take-no-prisoners approach which dominates our nation's economic and political philosophy today. What some people refer to as "political correctness" was never something that originated organically or at the grass roots level; it was contrived in corporate boardrooms and imposed from the top down some 20-30 years after the Civil Rights Movement was in full swing. How or why liberals were so easily duped into going along with it and believing it to be a good thing - that's a mystery. But then again, they got duped into so many things during those years, all the while abandoning many of the high-minded ideals they claimed to uphold a few decades earlier.
     
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    Interesting! I was in a thread about Brexit, though I have no real skin in that game. The remain group is focused on monetary benefits of the trade group. The leave group is focused on being a separate country and strongly dislikes EU government for reasons that are not monetary. There were two Leave campaigns, and one of them published dishonest numbers having to do with the DHS service. That very much angered the Remain side. The other Leave campaign used cutting edge technology to find disaffected voters to contact and convince to vote to leave. See the Brexit movie which dramatizes the Leave campaign, its strategies and internal squabbles. You will enjoy it.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendation. However, for me, "enjoy" and "Brexit" do not go together.
    My only other comment is the Remain side also highlighted non-monetary aspects of membership, such as employment rights, justice and freedom of movement. (I personally would say that the Leave side focussed on outright lies and deceit).
     
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    Most countries have gone through that "We are the best by God" thing, but I think USA has had it pretty bad. I think this will subside as we get further away from WWII. After that war it was easy to sell Americans on heroic actions. I saw a film documentary about how it was a miracle that our carriers weren't sunk by the Japanese ship Yamado. It is not usual for the outcome of a battle to be described as miraculous, but some of ours are. Similarly in some history books the sinking of the Spanish fleet by the British is miraculous, but in others it is considered in strategic terms that the British had smaller maneuverable ships. You may have seen the painting of Washington crossing the Delaware river. I was told it was a miracle that he wasn't caught by the British doing that. Miracles and war together? People believe this stuff. That's true.
     
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    I have seen one or two of short vids of him talking on youtube. He charges among other things that marxism is a failed idea that results in suffering, which is a judgment of his. He also charges that some leftist departments want to shut down dialogue, silence those who disagree and politically train students to be marxists. I don't know where he gets his 25% figure from which is why I say "If that is correct."
     
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