They were mending nets , some of them , Another a tax collecter. There's even this shady character that kinda turns out to be a bit two faced in the end. I forget his name now . Begins with J i think ?
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Christians Only: The Book of Mormon
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And are you a disicple of the man Paul, believing because he said so?
None of the authors claim any such claims about themselves . Luke a doctor, does that count? Although some boffins do credit luke as being quite the historian.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
And what has this to do with who wrote anything about Jesus?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No. It doesn’t. Way too late to have been an eyewitness.
There is this book called the bible ,it mentions things about God . It claims to be from God . Its about Jesus. Have you read it ?
Yes it does ..Great discussion.
Not according to the bible.
Thoroughly.
Now, why do you believe that this is the word of God and not the Quran? Why do you believe something because Paul claims it but not Mohammad?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Circular reasoning. Outside scholarship shows it to be written too late to have been written by an eyewitness. “Because the Bible says so” is not compelling in this case
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
That doesn’t answer my question.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Evidence?
@Barry Johnson ,
For me, I am a Christian. Christ is the most important, ultimate test of Truth, and my Lord.
I cannot ethically just believe what any man/woman says because they said it. Or wrote a text about it. For me, that would make me a disciple of that human, not God. And me in dire need of mega repentance. The ultimate source of truth is not “____ said it so it must be true.” That goes for Joseph Smith, Mohammad, Paul, and everyone else.
For me, I am a Christian. Christ is the most important, ultimate test of Truth, and my Lord.
I cannot ethically just believe what any man/woman says because they said it. Or wrote a text about it. For me, that would make me a disciple of that human, not God. And me in dire need of mega repentance. The ultimate source of truth is not “____ said it so it must be true.” That goes for Joseph Smith, Mohammad, Paul, and everyone else.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That is because I constantly run false claims of "assumption" by some Christians. When you accuse others of making an assumption you are making a claim about that person. That means you take on a burden of proof. Instead of making a claim that you probably cannot justify it is wiser to ask why people think the way that they do.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Paul was not an eyewitness either. The Gospels were all written at least a generation after Jesus's death. Scholars are very sure that some of the Pauline epistles were written by Paul, some they are unsure of, and some they are very sure were not written by him. II Peter was almost certainly not written by Peter and today there are doubts that he wrote I Peter.
There may be an eyewitness book in the New Testament, but I cannot think of any.
Speaking for myself: if I was the person whom relied on external archeologists or scienctists for faith, I would toss all Abrahamic faiths out the air lock based on Genesis alone.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Except that Genesis shares literary continuity with other ancient literature.
There’s speculative guesses about it. Honestly it’s not a topic that interests me at all, so I don’t remember too many of the current theories.