CHILD ABUSE by PRIESTS

[Yukon]

Numerous Roman Catholic clergymen have been arrested, charged, tried in court, and convicted of heinous acts of homosexuality against young boys. Many too have been arrested and convicted for possessing child pornography.

I do not understand how any independant logical, rational, thinking person, could attend this Church. More shocking still is that they send their children to this Church knowing that the Priest may be "one of them".

What is your opinion ?

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

Pedophilia and other sexual misconduct is not limited to Catholic institutions. It's just reported more.

I would be wary of any person that had a leadership or caretaker relationship with my children. That includes clergymen, police officers, babysitters, doctors, teachers, etc.

 

[Yukon]

Are you serious....is it your position that the RC Church is no worse than any other church ?

Pedophilia and other sexual misconduct is not limited to Catholic institutions. It's just reported more.

I would be wary of any person that had a leadership or caretaker relationship with my children. That includes clergymen, police officers, babysitters, doctors, teachers, etc.

 

[Onkara]

Pedophilia and other sexual misconduct is not limited to Catholic institutions. It's just reported more.

I would be wary of any person that had a leadership or caretaker relationship with my children. That includes clergymen, police officers, babysitters, doctors, teachers, etc.

... and parents, grandparents and all people in general.

I agree. The problem is fundamentally a human problem, that none of us can easily ignore.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Are you serious....is it your position that the RC Church is no worse than any other church ?

I would say so, judging by the following article...

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June 15, 2007
BY ROSE FRENCH

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

The figures offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down -- the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.

Religious groups and victims' supporters have been interested in the figure ever since the Roman Catholic sex abuse crisis hit five years ago. The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950 -- 228 a year.

Protestant numbers have been harder to come by because the denominations are less centralized than the Catholic church. Some of the only numbers come from three insurance companies -- Church Mutual Insurance Co., GuideOne Insurance Co. and Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Co. Together, they represent a large chunk of all U.S. Protestant churches.

http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/429030,CST-NWS-prot15.article

 

[tumbleweed41]

... and parents, grandparents and all people in general.

I agree. The problem is fundamentally a human problem, that none of us can easily ignore.

Amen...

 

[Yukon]

Political correctness seems to rule the debate so far.

 

[Songbird]

Here's a popular and extensive report on sexual abuse by Catholic priests you may find interesting:

http://www.usccb.org/mr/causes-and-...ic-priests-in-the-united-states-1950-2010.pdf

 

[Engyo]

Political correctness seems to rule the debate so far.

What you mean here is that people aren't willing to slam the Catholic Church as vehemently as you want them to, right?

 

[Yukon]

Wrong Wngyo...I am not asking anyone to slam the RC Church. I am indeed puzzled though at the subtle defense of the sexual predators within that church. Claiming that they are no worse than other organizations is outrageous - almost like saying the killing of 6 million by the Germans wasn't really that bad after all Mao killed 20 million Chinese. .

 

[Songbird]

Wrong Wngyo...I am not asking anyone to slam the RC Church. I am indeed puzzled though at the subtle defense of the sexual predators within that church. Claims that they are no worse than other organizations is a tacitile defense of the actions.

Do you have statistics on other organizations and how they compare to priests?

 

[Yukon]

Do you have statistics on other organizations and how they compare to priests?

I never made the claim. I dont need statistics. I have no intention of comparing others.

 

[Engyo]

Wrong Wngyo...I am not asking anyone to slam the RC Church. I am indeed puzzled though at the subtle defense of the sexual predators within that church. Claims that they are no worse than other organizations is a tacitile defense of the actions.

You want people to consider that the Catholic clergy's abuse of minors is worse than Protestant clergy's abuse of minors, or secular authority figures' abuse of minors; all of them seem happen at about the same frequency against the total population, which suggests that this is a problem endemic to humans, rather than to any specific religious organization.

I'm curious why you believe that the problem is worse or somehow more sinister in the Roman Catholic Church than it is elsewhere?

 

[Engyo]

I never made the claim. I dont need statistics. I have no intention of comparing others.

So then, anyone who doesn't accept your claims or agree with your judgements is guilty of being PC, since you don't need statistics and won't make comparisons?

Political correctness seems to rule the debate so far.

 

[Yukon]

My children,
Please understand that two wrongs do not make it right.

I'm not asking about Protestant or secular organizations.

Trying to compare the RC Church with those groups is apples and oranges.

Please stick to the topic.

Thank you,
Yukon

 

[Songbird]

I never made the claim. I dont need statistics. I have no intention of comparing others.

You said:

Wrong Wngyo...I am not asking anyone to slam the RC Church. I am indeed puzzled though at the subtle defense of the sexual predators within that church. Claiming that they are no worse than other organizations is outrageous - almost like saying the killing of 6 million by the Germans wasn't really that bad after all Mao killed 20 million Chinese. .

So I'm wondering if you have statistics that say they are worse. I don't see anyone defending predators here.

 

[Engyo]

My children,
Please understand that two wrongs do not make it right.

I'm not asking about Protestant or secular organizations.

Trying to compare the RC Church with those groups is apples and oranges.

Please stick to the topic.

Thank you,
Yukon

We were; it seems to me that you just don't like the arguments made against your position.

 

[Songbird]

My children,
Please understand that two wrongs do not make it right.

I'm not asking about Protestant or secular organizations.

Trying to compare the RC Church with those groups is apples and oranges.

Please stick to the topic.

Thank you,
Yukon

What's the topic? Priest-bashing?

 

[no-body]

 

[Yukon]

Would you allow your son to be alone with a Roman Catholic Preist...for example would you permit your son to attend a weekend religious learning centre with a Priest...what say ye?

p.s. If you can please try to be honest and not allow your religious affiliation to interfere with your decision making process.