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Cause and effect

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I insist.... science is correct

an object at rest will remain at rest.....until Something moves it

look up

nothing up there is NOT moving
and science would have you believe it started with a bang

and I prefer the word....snap
that of God's Fingers

He pinched the primordial singularity and gave it a good hard ....snap

the ROTATION had to be in play......BEFORE the expansion began
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
and let's cut this to the quick

there will NOT be any proof
no photo, no fingerprint, no equation and no repeatable experiment

all you CAN do ....is think about it
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
and .....here we go

God is the Cause
the universe (one word)......is the effect

I cannot be swayed
Maybe, it is the contrary. The Universe is a cause and God the effect. How do you know?

Ciao

- viole
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
In my Advaita Vedanta philosophy, Brahman/God alone is real and the universe is a thought-form (a play/drama) of Brahman/God.

Physical evidence for this belief is incomplete at this time. Quantum Mechanics 'observer effect' suggests that things happen because of conscious observation. It may all be downward causation starting from a thought into the playing out in matter,

The greater evidence to me is the consistent revelations of those that I believe have gone the deepest into the nature of their consciousness and reality and have explained as best as possible in words.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
we could venture into the darkness......the void
(see Genesis)

and God was God.....of the darkness BEFORE He created light

dark energy and dark matter
said to be more than what we can see
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I would think cause and effect would be fundamental, otherwise there is no way to reason how things truly are, and logic itself would be a faulty tool not worth much trust.

If modern science only looks for patterns in the universe then they haven't explained anything.
 
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