Spiderman
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The only real sermons on Catholicism I find interesting anymore are Jewish Converts to Catholicism like Rosalind Moss, Sister Miriam Wurm, Deacon Bob fishman, and members of the Hebrew Catholic rite who argue that they converted because Catholicism is more Jewish in it's traditions than modern Judaism. They claim this because at the Catholic Mass there are more Jewish traditions than one will see at a synagogue.
(Since they are now Catholic in faith, they believe at the mass there is a priest, a victim, an altar, and a sacrifice...each which were a huge part of Jewish tradition that is no longer practiced within Judaism. Some of the Catholic Churches and Cathedrals feel more sacred like the magnificent temple of Solomon to them as well.)
As disgusting as the Church's wealth is, the big hats, the golden vessels, Golden Miters and vestments, and the ostentatious robes, thuribles, burning incense and magnificent structure are also found in the Old Testament as well.
Exodus 2 "These are the garments they are to make: a breastpiece, an ephod, a robe, a woven tunic, a turban and a sash. They are to make these sacred garments for your brother Aaron and his sons, so they may serve me as priests. 5 Have them use gold, and blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and fine linen.
6 “Make the ephod of gold, and of blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and of finely twisted linen—the work of skilled hands. 7 It is to have two shoulder pieces attached to two of its corners, so it can be fastened. 8 Its skillfully woven waistband is to be like it—of one piece with the ephod and made with gold, and with blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and with finely twisted linen.
15 “Fashion a breastpiece for making decisions—the work of skilled hands. Make it like the ephod: of gold...mount four rows of precious jewels on it. Mount them in gold filigree settings. 21 There are to be twelve stones, one for each of the names of the sons of Israel.
22 “For the breastpiece make braided chains of pure gold, like a rope. 23 Make two gold rings for it and fasten them to two corners of the breastpiece. 24 Fasten the two gold chains...36 “Make a plate of pure gold and engrave on it as on a seal"...
So God totally wanted these people to be decked out in gold, Jewels, fine -linen, and big hats when they worshipped...
The temple of Solomon was also covered in disgusting amounts of gold that could have fed all the starving people in the world lol
The Catholic Church's use of carved images as instruments of grace was practiced by the Jews and were not only mandatory but essentail for their survival, and God worked miracles through and spoke to them through graven images of bronze and gold LOL!
Holding up the Crucifix on the pole and believing grace can be channeled through it is prefigured through the Serpent on the pole in the book of Numbers:
John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up.
Old Testament priests burned copious amounts of incense:
The ancient Israelites were not only commanded to kill the lamb and put it's blood on their doorpost. They were also required to eat the lamb. That is where the tradition of the Eucharist comes from (as well as the feast of unleavened bread [Passover], considered a prefigurement of the mass and last supper).
The sacrificial lamb, the altar, the Tabernacle as well, all come from Jewish tradition
Bishops wear yarmulkas
And there is even a Catholic Version of the menorah, only different number
Catholicism also has some similarities with Islam. Consecrated Religious wear robes which come from bedouin Arabic tradition, a type of Hijab, pray with prayer beads, pray on their face and kiss the floor.
Muslim prayer beads:
Catholic Rosary
(Since they are now Catholic in faith, they believe at the mass there is a priest, a victim, an altar, and a sacrifice...each which were a huge part of Jewish tradition that is no longer practiced within Judaism. Some of the Catholic Churches and Cathedrals feel more sacred like the magnificent temple of Solomon to them as well.)
As disgusting as the Church's wealth is, the big hats, the golden vessels, Golden Miters and vestments, and the ostentatious robes, thuribles, burning incense and magnificent structure are also found in the Old Testament as well.
Exodus 2 "These are the garments they are to make: a breastpiece, an ephod, a robe, a woven tunic, a turban and a sash. They are to make these sacred garments for your brother Aaron and his sons, so they may serve me as priests. 5 Have them use gold, and blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and fine linen.
6 “Make the ephod of gold, and of blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and of finely twisted linen—the work of skilled hands. 7 It is to have two shoulder pieces attached to two of its corners, so it can be fastened. 8 Its skillfully woven waistband is to be like it—of one piece with the ephod and made with gold, and with blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and with finely twisted linen.
15 “Fashion a breastpiece for making decisions—the work of skilled hands. Make it like the ephod: of gold...mount four rows of precious jewels on it. Mount them in gold filigree settings. 21 There are to be twelve stones, one for each of the names of the sons of Israel.
22 “For the breastpiece make braided chains of pure gold, like a rope. 23 Make two gold rings for it and fasten them to two corners of the breastpiece. 24 Fasten the two gold chains...36 “Make a plate of pure gold and engrave on it as on a seal"...
So God totally wanted these people to be decked out in gold, Jewels, fine -linen, and big hats when they worshipped...
The temple of Solomon was also covered in disgusting amounts of gold that could have fed all the starving people in the world lol
The Catholic Church's use of carved images as instruments of grace was practiced by the Jews and were not only mandatory but essentail for their survival, and God worked miracles through and spoke to them through graven images of bronze and gold LOL!
Holding up the Crucifix on the pole and believing grace can be channeled through it is prefigured through the Serpent on the pole in the book of Numbers:
John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up.
Old Testament priests burned copious amounts of incense:
The ancient Israelites were not only commanded to kill the lamb and put it's blood on their doorpost. They were also required to eat the lamb. That is where the tradition of the Eucharist comes from (as well as the feast of unleavened bread [Passover], considered a prefigurement of the mass and last supper).
The sacrificial lamb, the altar, the Tabernacle as well, all come from Jewish tradition
Bishops wear yarmulkas
And there is even a Catholic Version of the menorah, only different number
Catholicism also has some similarities with Islam. Consecrated Religious wear robes which come from bedouin Arabic tradition, a type of Hijab, pray with prayer beads, pray on their face and kiss the floor.
Muslim prayer beads:
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