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Capitalism sucks

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So the phrase "hard-earned" was dusting for anti-taxation rhetoric?

Just hyperbole, or an deliberately dishonest and simplistic framing of a hugely complicated issue?
I've never met any kind of money other than "hard earned".
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
I've never met any kind of money other than "hard earned".

LOL. Yes indeed.
Those whose eyes are too close together from generations of upper class in-breeding seem to be those who generally believe they earned it the hardest.
Inheritence is a tough business.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I cannot stomach this capitalism. It just sucks.

Capitalism may suck, but what you're describing isn't capitalism.

It's a godawful mess of things -- a scramble for the wealthy to keep as much wealth as they can and get out of dodge before everything is gone.

Since the wealthy have control over the market and the laws that govern it, "capitalism" only guides the free market so far. The real wealth is for the elites and they don't care about anything except themselves - generally speaking.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It seems that those here who crow loudest about the evils of crony capitalism are most successful at voting in politicians who practice it.
Voting is less about ideology than blind team spirit.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
It seems that those here who crow loudest about the evils of crony capitalism are most successful at voting in politicians who practice it.
Voting is less about ideology than blind team spirit.

Well, evil crony capitalism is an American value. Like MLB players taking steriods or mama buying apple pie from the grocery store.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Capitalism may suck, but what you're describing isn't capitalism.

It's a godawful mess of things -- a scramble for the wealthy to keep as much wealth as they can and get out of dodge before everything is gone.

Since the wealthy have control over the market and the laws that govern it, "capitalism" only guides the free market so far. The real wealth is for the elites and they don't care about anything except themselves - generally speaking.
The use of capital as a means of concentrating wealth and exploiting others is historically what the word capitalism has been taken to mean.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Capitalism and those that control it are not a one class static entity.

Each generation produces its own tribe of professional money makers, who come to control all aspects of real wealth. Some are largely honest and who's wealth is derived from their own enterprise and who sometimes, in later life, become philanthropists. Most are semi criminal control freaks from the start and have no interest in their fellow men.

Ireland should have let the Banks go bust and start with a clean slate. The real assets should have been frozen by the government, with out the possibility of foreclosure of customer's assets. . The power of the banks would have been broken, times would have been tough for a while, but not with the unlimited time scale that they are now subject to.
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
Ireland should have let the Banks go bust and start with a clean slate. The real assets should have been frozen by the government, with out the possibility of foreclosure of customer's assets. . The power of the banks would have been broken, times would have been tough for a while, but not with the unlimited time scale that they are now subject to.
Couldn't agree more Terry.
 
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