You cant dodge having to defend your assertions by claiming you never actually made any.
By posting scriptures you implied they were relevant to the question.
I pointed out why they weren't relevant, but a misunderstanding or abuse of scripture on your part.
You tried to defend the relevance of your scripture citations to the question by simply making declarations about what kinds of behavior are antichristian, which implies that you are describing the nature of capitalism in defense of your original use of scripture.
Yet you have never established with any kind of reasoning why capitalism must involve by defintion the bad behavior you described.
If you try to weasel out of taking responsibility for your assertions by claiming you weren't actually making assertions about the nature of capitalism to defend your posts, then it makes your responses meaningless drivel that has no relevance at all to what you are trying to respond to.
Take this response by you as just one example:
There are only two possibilities here.
1. You are trying to defend your use of scripture by defining capitalism as selfish excess that serves mammon. In which case you fail to ever support your assertion with reason, making your claim invalid.
2. You are not trying to define capitalism with your post as having these characteristics. In which case your post is meaningless drivel that bears absolutely no relevance to what you are responding to. Simplying describing what is bad behavior is according to the Bible has absolutely no relevance to anything in this thead, and proves nothing, unless you can show reason why capitalism requires these traits to be capitalism. It is an utterly meaningless response to my post in that case, arguing against nothing I said and making no relevant point of it's own.
As I already showed, your own defintion of capitalism already settles the question. If capitalism is just owning stuff, then you can be an owner of property and still be a Christian. Nothing in the Bible prohibits property ownership. In fact, the Bible affirms that individual property ownership is fine.
Every argument you've tried to make about capitalism being antichristian by indirect implication is disproven by your own definition of capitalism. It is impossble to say that being a capitalist precludes being a christian unless you are willing to be intellectually honest and state directly, without trying to hide from it, what you fully think it means to be a capitalist. And then you must be prepared to back up your defintion with solid reasoning and evidence.
i'm responding to your inquiries; so no i'm not dodging. usury itself was condemned in the bible; especially to one's own kind.
the word capital as relates to wealth wasn't coined until the 1600's; The rich man didn't like it when Jesus told him to go and sell everything he owned and follow him. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich person to get into heaven. Why? because a rich person must be stripped of their wealth; to which they have become attached. Its about attachment.
1. you can be a christian and have things. just not amassing multiple things knowing other's are in need.
2. you can't focus on prioritizing wealth above love and be a christian. the bible doesn't advocate that.
i didn't say you couldn't be a christian and the owner of stuff(things). obviously everyone requires things in life to be self-sustaining. it's when materialism is the focus of the individual to profit off of other's; especially the poor and disenfranchised while living in opulence and indifference to other's less fortunate. Love isn't apathetic/indifferent towards others. Prioritizing wealth above love and compassion would be different towards others because the focus is on self's profits and not everyone's.
Jesus' group carried money themselves but they didn't hoard it.
again, another scenario from the bible
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Luke 12
16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’
18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’
20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself? 21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”
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so again, one can't focus on amassing wealth; if one is only going to use it to benefit self and those that only fit within one's idea of family/tribe. that isn't christ like. to be christ like, one takes only what one needs and doesn't hoard.
one must work continually because laziness is not a virtue either.
1 Timothy 6:9-10 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the
love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.
avarice
basically the foundation to the idea of coveting is power above/over others, or to lord over others. love doesn't differentiate. wanting, or amassing, power creates differences. those who will not serve others as self will not know love.
