Willowmina
On a journey to the ocean
Is there a time when we can leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
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Can we leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
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Of course we can !
Nobody is being forced into religion.
Not the Christian one anyway.
When? . .For what?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
If we ever set down these twin burdens of ours, how would we know who to hate? That's probably why children are considered innocent.
ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
On the Sabbath. 
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
If one is practicing a religion, then not really. for example Muslims and Jews read the Torah and the Qur'an on regular basis. as for intellectual knowledge there is nothing that gets Jews going more than debating.
naikaidiver
Member
Its very unlikely. Humans by nature are very curious about the universe around us and what makes it all "go". The accumulation of knowledge is the direct result of the findings that come from the pursuit of this curiosity.
Unfortunately, from time to time, people of a certain faith will feel that their faith is "threatened" by a new discovery and will seek immediately to repress the discovery and the people that purport it. (Copernicus, Gallileo, Kepler, Darwin, ect)
The seeking of salvation and the pursuit of knowledge cater to two, very different basic human needs. The need to belong, self importance, and the desire to understand. These needs feed off eachother instinctively but are troubling when they are contradictory.
Unfortunately, from time to time, people of a certain faith will feel that their faith is "threatened" by a new discovery and will seek immediately to repress the discovery and the people that purport it. (Copernicus, Gallileo, Kepler, Darwin, ect)
The seeking of salvation and the pursuit of knowledge cater to two, very different basic human needs. The need to belong, self importance, and the desire to understand. These needs feed off eachother instinctively but are troubling when they are contradictory.
Willowmina
On a journey to the ocean
Um, when we sleep?
Seriously now...
If someone is in deadly danger, we don't have to go read texts to find out if it's OK to try to save them.
What deadly dangers are you referring to?
Willowmina
On a journey to the ocean
Who do we have to hate...and why?
Willowmina
On a journey to the ocean
On the Sabbath.
Only on the Sabbath?
Willowmina
On a journey to the ocean
What about eastern religions such as Hinduism or Buddhism?
Willowmina
On a journey to the ocean
What about self-knowledge? How much book or intellectual knowledge does that require?
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
I don't know if the common Hindu or Buddhist worshiper reads the respective scriptures on regular basis, but Hinduism without its major scriptures has nothing to lean on, while the Buddhist religion holds one of the biggest scriptural libraries in known religions.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
We have religious and political and intellectual enemies because our books of knowledge and books of religion say it must be so.
Reptillian
Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Knowledge is no enemy, simply a tool. I agree with those great men of the enlightenment, only reason and knowledge can create a better world for us and our children. I think the biggest problem now days is that people tout ignorance as some grand virtue and don't recognize it as the stumbling block it is. They have this idea that idiocy is noble. The cause of all that strife during the dark ages wasn't religion, it was ignorance. The cause of modern problems like global warming and pollution can likewise be traced to ignorance.
Religion is only dangerous when it encourages ignorance and blind obedience to authority.
Religion is only dangerous when it encourages ignorance and blind obedience to authority.
They pretty much rely on intelectual knowledge, don't they?
I'm not sure what you are proposing.
They are very much only communicating deeper causes, however. Mainly various forms of chauvinism and nationalism. Avoiding texts doesn't much change anything.
A fair lot, actually. By existing in such ambitious societies, we are implicitly promising to have a correspondingly ambitious degree of intelectual knowledge.
In fact, we are already sorely lacking in this regard. So much so that there are still those who view Evolution as some sort of enemy, for instance.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
That was a little bit of sarcasm on my part, in case you couldn't tell.