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Jeremiahcp,
The short answer is NO!!!
There are two sources that we obtain religion, Natural Religion, and Revealed Religion. We can learn much from nature, but we do not learn many things about our creator, that He wants us to know.
Revealed Religion is the information that God had written down for our instruction, Romans 15:4-6.
There is a term; Egocentric Preficament, which means that we know so little, that we really cannot reason within our own minds and reach a conclusion that is better than what the Bible plainly tells us, Isaiah 55:8,9, 1Corinthians 3:18-20. Man cannot direct his steps in the right way, because man does not know what will happen in the days ahead, Jeremiah 10:23. People many times pick the wrong choice that seems right, Proverbs 16:25. God knows what is the best choice, because He knows what a wrong course will bring. God wants the very best for the people who love Him, Proverb 3:5,6, 8:17, Psalms 25:8-10, 32:8,9. Deuteronomy 10:13, Isaiah 48:17.
The only way a person can train his conscience to be, what people call good, is to train you conscience by reading and studying God's words, Hebrews 5:13,14.
Well first, “not religious” doesn’t automatically mean atheist (and vice-versa for that matter) and people can be of various religions without a nation state having (imposing?) a singular state religion.Humans as a whole protect the self, family, tribe, ethnicity and then the world. How many people march because they are proud to be human? If the world lost a religious belief atheism would just become human. No one would march because of atheism. We need a world group that links ethnicity, tribes, families and self's so even though I hate German Nazi's I can still like German Christians etc. Because of individuality we need more than one world group. No single world group can contain the totality of human kind.
Yes.Can we be good people without religion? Please explain.
I think people can and already do form groups without religion.Humans as a whole protect the self, family, tribe, ethnicity and then the world. How many people march because they are proud to be human? If the world lost a religious belief atheism would just become human. No one would march because of atheism. We need a world group that links ethnicity, tribes, families and self's so even though I hate German Nazi's I can still like German Christians etc. Because of individuality we need more than one world group. No single world group can contain the totality of human kind.
First although grouping is natural and good for survival of the individual it is not good for survival of the species.Well first, “not religious” doesn’t automatically mean atheist (and vice-versa for that matter) and people can be of various religions without a nation state having (imposing?) a singular state religion.
You identify several different ways people can group and work together which to me only goes to show that religion, while one option, isn’t a requirement. I don’t see any logical difference between the idea that individuals can’t be good without religion and the idea that states can’t be good without religion.
First although grouping is natural and good for survival of the individual it is not good for survival of the species.I think people can and already do form groups without religion.
What is religion? These groups may be a religion unto themselves.I think people can and already do form groups without religion.
I'll try to keep this as long-winded as I can. The question in the OP reminds me of the time I was learning to tie my own shoelaces when I was yet...blah blah blah blah blah blah which is why I was speaking to the Governor in the first place...blah blah blah blah blah...and then she said to me, "A divorce! You want a..." blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah burp blah blah blah blah...so if Einstein was right, and I'm interpreting relativity correctly, my ego really is the Prime Mover in the universe....blah blah blah blah blah blah belch blah blah blah blah blah blah....What was the question again?
By the way, I apologize for being so short.
(or truly Scot)I'm not completely convinced that people can be truly good *with* religion.
What is religion? These groups may be a religion unto themselves.
First although grouping is natural and good for survival of the individual it is not good for survival of the species.
Religion is one way we bridge the groups. You need to replace religion with another bridge, a world wide cause that groups all humans under it yet is individual. The only other natural bridge is a great or large disaster. The group divide falls when encountering a major disaster.
"First although grouping is natural and good for survival of the individual it is not good for survival of the species."
That is just wrong. Human survival to this day is the result of working in groups.
LOL You never know... you would have to listen to their conversations.And I suppose the collection of pens in my desk drawer is also a religious group.
and when questioned.......He replied....Can we be good people without religion? Please explain.
Can we be good people without religion? Please explain.
The early hunter gather tribes didn't get by on their ability to network religiously, the got by as independent units.So are War's, genocide.
I fail to see how religion has ever done or could ever do that. There is no concrete things as religion, just lots of individual religions, many of which are directly contradictory and even in regular conflict. Religion is ultimately just another grouping, not fundamentally any better or worse than any of the others in the context we’re talking about. That’s why your suggestion that we can only have “good” societies with religion is flawed.First although grouping is natural and good for survival of the individual it is not good for survival of the species.
Religion is one way we bridge the groups. You need to replace religion with another bridge, a world wide cause that groups all humans under it yet is individual. The only other natural bridge is a great or large disaster. The group divide falls when encountering a major disaster.
When you learn how to write in complete sentences then maybe I'll read your post.and when questioned.......He replied....
Do not call Me good. No one is good but the Father.
I do not allow it for myself
I am not the Standard
and I have no religion
but most people I meet seem to like me
no accounting for taste
Yes.Can we be good people without religion?
A commitment to nourishing one's neighbor requires no god.Please explain.