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Can Anyone Solve God’s Garden of Eden Parable?
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cbullion
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(I wanted to talk more about pain, but, I want what these people will do to me to last at least a few days, then what happens should be flushed out over the larger scale in having these people hurt people for these seven years, while we are praying, these people will be killing, we'll continue to do that)
Two New Testament Antichrists (this is where the blasphemy against the garden of eden comes into play
(The Old Testament Antichrists, were the Kingdom of Babylon and the Kingdom of Egypt, that is why God names them in revelation as, sodom and egypt)
There are two antichrists in the New Testament:
1. Peter = Pontius Pilate, he rejected the idea that God rebuked the speaking of tongs, that means castration (god doesn't identify with your loins or your blood lines anymore or forever, the line of the levites were killed off with david/jesus)
2. Paul - Nicodemus, he rejected the idea that God would kill mankind in revelations "dumb and blind", without a sign or a vision (God took the bones of Joseph from the tomb of Jesus, God did not pass the bones to moses, nor did god place them back into the earth)
Lots of people like to believe that Judas was the antichrist, but he didn't do anything against jesus, he ended up rebuking the church, proclaiming the crucifixion had no value...............people also like to believe the high priest of that day was the antichrist, however, the romans nailed jesus to the cross...............so there is a lot of blasphemy taking place.
1. INRI (I*/Rape/Murder), marriage or divorce does not have any value with God for a Sign or a Vision, that is blasphemy against God
2. NIBIRU (Third Temple), we have one God and one Christ, this is not another God, if God parallels the 5 Months of Noah's Flood with Revelation, then there is no legal reason in God's Eyes to modify the position
(So you know where the word INRI/NIBIRU/INCES*, share a common bond in the new testament blasphemy against God and his Christ? God shut down the philosophies of the Garden of Eden along with your sign or vision in the New Testament, we will settle this problem of authority once and for all time, of you simply not having a body to beat on or to kill, pain for pain, so we'll see what is necessary, of an absolute truth, God allow Nguyen Van Lem to simply wait in Heaven until that window of judgment closed, and God has a tendency to double his judgment, you will be defeated silently, with no trumpets sounding and no alarms)
(assisted suicide yes, that would easy to achieve with cooperation from the media and the authorities, we could even stand out in the open and watch god put an end to the people using force against me, regardless of how may people watch, but you need to understand the problem of authority, and the pleasure of sin these people have, all of this will be settled in about 2 weeks.................so they are not giving a gospel, only promoting suicide, even if they don't want to answer the legal right to live question, it will be addressed anyway and soon, the gospel must go forward)
(we will be back into vietnam, into todays terms, replaying the last moments of Nguyen Van Lem, with the Second Resurrection of the Antichrist, on international tv the same as back then we will do today in about 2 weeks, let what happens happen, you can pass away, don't care, you will learn how much I believe that)
Two New Testament Antichrists (this is where the blasphemy against the garden of eden comes into play
(The Old Testament Antichrists, were the Kingdom of Babylon and the Kingdom of Egypt, that is why God names them in revelation as, sodom and egypt)
There are two antichrists in the New Testament:
1. Peter = Pontius Pilate, he rejected the idea that God rebuked the speaking of tongs, that means castration (god doesn't identify with your loins or your blood lines anymore or forever, the line of the levites were killed off with david/jesus)
2. Paul - Nicodemus, he rejected the idea that God would kill mankind in revelations "dumb and blind", without a sign or a vision (God took the bones of Joseph from the tomb of Jesus, God did not pass the bones to moses, nor did god place them back into the earth)
Lots of people like to believe that Judas was the antichrist, but he didn't do anything against jesus, he ended up rebuking the church, proclaiming the crucifixion had no value...............people also like to believe the high priest of that day was the antichrist, however, the romans nailed jesus to the cross...............so there is a lot of blasphemy taking place.
1. INRI (I*/Rape/Murder), marriage or divorce does not have any value with God for a Sign or a Vision, that is blasphemy against God
2. NIBIRU (Third Temple), we have one God and one Christ, this is not another God, if God parallels the 5 Months of Noah's Flood with Revelation, then there is no legal reason in God's Eyes to modify the position
(So you know where the word INRI/NIBIRU/INCES*, share a common bond in the new testament blasphemy against God and his Christ? God shut down the philosophies of the Garden of Eden along with your sign or vision in the New Testament, we will settle this problem of authority once and for all time, of you simply not having a body to beat on or to kill, pain for pain, so we'll see what is necessary, of an absolute truth, God allow Nguyen Van Lem to simply wait in Heaven until that window of judgment closed, and God has a tendency to double his judgment, you will be defeated silently, with no trumpets sounding and no alarms)
(assisted suicide yes, that would easy to achieve with cooperation from the media and the authorities, we could even stand out in the open and watch god put an end to the people using force against me, regardless of how may people watch, but you need to understand the problem of authority, and the pleasure of sin these people have, all of this will be settled in about 2 weeks.................so they are not giving a gospel, only promoting suicide, even if they don't want to answer the legal right to live question, it will be addressed anyway and soon, the gospel must go forward)
(we will be back into vietnam, into todays terms, replaying the last moments of Nguyen Van Lem, with the Second Resurrection of the Antichrist, on international tv the same as back then we will do today in about 2 weeks, let what happens happen, you can pass away, don't care, you will learn how much I believe that)
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that is Intelligent gibberish. However there may be a point there as to how Christianity can equate the serpent with Satan. Certainly the serpent acted contrary to the will of God and that makes her a satan.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Then what 'intelligent gibberish' are you disagreeing with?
JesusBeliever
Active Member
Maybe because the Knowledge of Good and Evil doesn't produce in the eater the fruit of the Spirit being:
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23
Note too that the Apostle Paul tells us that Knowledge puffs up but love edifies. (1 Corinthians 8:1)
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Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Many people are taught that the original sin occurred in the garden of Eden.
But this is not true, The original sin was committed by satan and not committed by Adam or Eve.
But this is not true, The original sin was committed by satan and not committed by Adam or Eve.
Tiapan
Grumpy Old Man
Its all nonsense!
Eden just moves because of climate change aggravated by human activity, so of course it has moved .
It currently resides just outside Melbourne, Australia, on the Yarra, between Warrandyte and Yarra Glen, - the best place to exist in the entire western arm of the milky way spiral galaxy!
Cheers
Eden just moves because of climate change aggravated by human activity, so of course it has moved .
It currently resides just outside Melbourne, Australia, on the Yarra, between Warrandyte and Yarra Glen, - the best place to exist in the entire western arm of the milky way spiral galaxy!
Cheers
Cassandra
Active Member
The bible is made up out of mutilated popular mythological Pagan stories. The meaning was changed to fit a specific moral. In this case to give an answer how there can be suffering on Earth if God is good. If God is not to blame than the blame must rest with Man. But as children are born innocent, they had to find a deeper cause, something that affected all of Man.
The Garden of Eden was originally not paradise. The garden of Eden was a Palace garden in which Pagan Kings used to consult the Gods or one God in particular. These gardens later developed into courtyards, then in courts, then in temples. That is why old temples often have plant paintings on the walls.
The King used to be the High priest of the religion as well. He was supposed to have a direct contact with the Gods. Being successful in battle was considered proof of his elevated position with the Gods.
The story of Adam and Eve used to be in the middle and was altered and moved to the beginning to become a creation story. From then on it begot a life of its own. That is how religion develops over time.
What the writers wanted to convey is probably that Man striving for power in envy of God creates his own fall. That desires of women often play a part in that. It sounds silly that Mankind took a fall for eating an apple, but they sought an explanation for the fall of Man, which was already widely believed before Abrahamism came into being. The Greek were long telling of the prior Golden Age of Man. And the Apple already played a role in Greek stories as an instrument of division. Similar stories can be found in other cultures. Their value is inspirational, not historical. What is it meant to convey? Taking it all literal is really killing it. The Bible uses stories to convey morals, that is the prime purpose.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
You make the same mistake as others people do, what you don't understand you curse.
Just because you try to go up the river without a paddle, it's no fault of the river that you want to curse.
Jesus was a huge sinner then so was joseph and so was mary for that matter. Please dont use scientific logic in application to the bivle its so lame it renders the text as bull****.
"The bible is made up out of mutilated popular mythological Pagan stories." Human genetics is made up of mutilated strands of dna. You are so southern baptist without jesus its pitiful. Your whole nonsense is like an artist displaying a commode being proclaimed as art when its gsrbage. Your mytbos of mhth is the earliest nonsense developed in christianity itself so your writing has already been articulated thousands of years ago in cbristianity why its right and everything else is wrong. Your art is **** b Not even original bad art just repeated is all.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
If David T is such an expert I hope he will take a few minutes of his valuable time to inform those of us who are less knowledgeable about the truth. Don't just say we are wrong but point out how we are wrong.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
It represents War/Fighting, and Hate. Virtue is a angel of light.
Really are you that lazy? Pitiful. Upu want me to" tell you the truth?" Only incredibly lazy people ask for the truth from someone else. And all you will have is an interpreted reality that is not home. Obviously you have zero clue to what i am saying and thats in the bible as well. It really is not that hard and the most difficult thing ypu can do but nature must take precidence or its just i outer pace reality we might as well be arguing star wars.as soon as i say nature the dim wit lazy default is science. Thats lazy at its worst. I dont say a single original thing here its been said for thousands of years and ypu ask me to explain it? How might i do that if its already spoken and ignored regardless? Heraclitus said the logos is common but everyone seems to have their own private understanding. Completely anti pythagorean cometely anti modern science and religion all at the same time. Not that hard what is dependent upon what? Get back to me when you stop warching tv the intellectual bs grow up and engage nature directly as opposed to your theories, specularion, ideas, aNd beliefs. Art is difficult everything else is simple minded audience.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Thanks for your kind words. It is always nice to hear from someone who has all the answers. The original post asked why it was sin for Eve to want knowledge. Wanting knowledge was not the sin but disobeying God was the sin. This ahs nothing to do with engageing nature or art or anything else. That is just a nice way to try to change the subject when you do not have a clue.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I like Jordan
I really enjoy most of his teachings......but.....
he jumped through the story at sooooooooo many levels
and it's not that complicated
Thief
Rogue Theologian
let's try to be a touch more literal.....
God....having made Man ( a little less than the angels)
might say to the angelic....
Man is less than you, therefore seek after him that he stub not his toe
nor dash his head
and God's Favored, with one third of heaven behind him said .....Nay!
that Man is less than we are, he should be made to serve us!
a fight broke out ....brother angel against brother angel
swords drawn
and one third of heaven fell
one third of heaven lost their positions for an argument over something
that looks like us.......They want us dead
two thirds of heaven lost their brothers for an argument over something
that looks like us....They might not care
then comes the moment when one is chosen to walk with God......in a garden
and his mind increased
and his body cloned
and his distinction is meant to increase with every generation
so.....in an effort to sabotage the event in the garden.....
someone approaches the women and says......
Eat, for you will not die
and God said nothing
for it was intended that Man BE that creature curious to learn
even IF death is pending
Eve, and then Adam, did partake
they proved themselves curious....even in the face of death
and were then released into the environment
Many say it was a test of obedience.....
Nay!
it was a test to make certain the nature of Man's spirit was no longer base
but instead
spiritual
btw...the snake is a metaphor denoting character
rather than form
so let's not be TOO literal
God....having made Man ( a little less than the angels)
might say to the angelic....
Man is less than you, therefore seek after him that he stub not his toe
nor dash his head
and God's Favored, with one third of heaven behind him said .....Nay!
that Man is less than we are, he should be made to serve us!
a fight broke out ....brother angel against brother angel
swords drawn
and one third of heaven fell
one third of heaven lost their positions for an argument over something
that looks like us.......They want us dead
two thirds of heaven lost their brothers for an argument over something
that looks like us....They might not care
then comes the moment when one is chosen to walk with God......in a garden
and his mind increased
and his body cloned
and his distinction is meant to increase with every generation
so.....in an effort to sabotage the event in the garden.....
someone approaches the women and says......
Eat, for you will not die
and God said nothing
for it was intended that Man BE that creature curious to learn
even IF death is pending
Eve, and then Adam, did partake
they proved themselves curious....even in the face of death
and were then released into the environment
Many say it was a test of obedience.....
Nay!
it was a test to make certain the nature of Man's spirit was no longer base
but instead
spiritual
btw...the snake is a metaphor denoting character
rather than form
so let's not be TOO literal
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
The snake was Satan. How would "character" appear and tempt Eve to eat? Eve certainly proved herself curious but also proved that she was not willing to obey God's instructions/ Isn't that just like humans today? We do not even want to obey traffic laws, ever notice how many people speed and run red lights, so of course no one wants to obey God. We would rather listen to the voice of Satan than that of God, Just like Eve.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
without the will of curiosity.....we seek only what we see and touch
no consideration to the next life
if Adam and Eve leaned to obedience rather than curiousity
Man would still be obedient....however....
the alteration would have been a fail
we humans NEED to seek what we cannot see, cannot touch
prior to the garden event Man was just another species
snatching his keep from anything....and anyone
that frame of mind likely fails when the hour approaches
and no thought of continuance was made
back into the dust