Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

[Revoltingest]

You may not be blaming it, but society and media in general is overflowing with examples of blaming mental illness.

I don't argue for that view.
You'll have to find someone who does.

BTW, this is just as I don't expect you to
argue that all guns must be banned, eg,
ancient matchlocks, wheellocks, flintlocks.
There are loopy people making that stupid
argument too.

 

[Sand Dancer]

One of my best friends is a life long member of the NRA. He *wants* to suspend his membership, but the NRA refuses to take him off of their list.
The NRA no longer represents the 'sane gun owner'.

So they are propping up their numbers?

 

[Sand Dancer]

Yes. It is entirely unacceptable that anywhere allows people to own guns and publicly carry them without training. That puts far too many people needlessly at risk because accidental gun deaths are already too high as it is.

Angry people like guns and are the least qualified to have them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't argue for that view.
You'll have to find someone who does.

I started that point by referencing how the article in the OP is pointing that out.

BTW, this is just as I don't expect you to
argue that all guns must be banned, eg,
ancient matchlocks, wheellocks, flintlocks.
There are loopy people making that stupid
argument too.

I didn't know matchlocks were still around, and I figured wheelocks were confined more to engineering education and projects.

 

[Revoltingest]

I started that point by referencing how the article in the OP is pointing that out.

I didn't know matchlocks were still around, and I figured wheelocks were confined more to engineering education and projects.

Many guns are antiques & curios. I once had a
license to deal in those. Some on RF argue that
those should be treated like high capacity semi
autos, either by regulation or by banning.
I find that view to be a total rejection of reality.

 

[esmith]

Oh. I want to add, that it is not the object, but the gun culture available in the US.

It is the ease of access both legally, financially and lack of qualifications to own a gun in the US.

It is the not gun that is the issue.

What do you see as qualification to own a firearm?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Many guns are antiques & curios. I once had a
license to deal in those. Some on RF argue that
those should be treated like high capacity semi
autos, either by regulation or by banning.
I find that view to be a total rejection of reality.

I would wager if killing and maiming as many people as possible is the goal then a baseball would probably be better than those antiques. If someone wants to bring one to a planned mass shooting then that would probably be best for everyone due to the high difficulty in getting a second shot off before the shooter is attacked.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would wager if killing and maiming as many people as possible is the goal then a baseball would probably be better than those antiques. If someone wants to bring one to a planned mass shooting then that would probably be best for everyone due to the high difficulty in getting a second shot off before the shooter is attacked.

The rifles I used to compete with would
be deadlier used as bludgeons.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The rifles I used to compete with would
be deadlier used as bludgeons.

I've heard they're not known for their accuracy. My dad's brother hunts with a flintlock, so I suppose they're good enough, but he's the only person I've known to use one. The rest is just what I've read about those fossils.

 

[Secret Chief]

I updated with a second link.

Thanks

Thanks. Excellent article.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The rifles I used to compete with would
be deadlier used as bludgeons.

That ole' trusty flintlock.

Made of the finest hardwood stock.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I've heard they're not known for their accuracy. My dad's brother hunts with a flintlock, so I suppose they're good enough, but he's the only person I've known to use one. The rest is just what I've read about those fossils.

Sounds like a person who appreciated history and the spirit of frontiersmen.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't argue for that view.
You'll have to find someone who does.

BTW, this is just as I don't expect you to
argue that all guns must be banned, eg,
ancient matchlocks, wheellocks, flintlocks.
There are loopy people making that stupid
argument too.

Our idiot unelected NY governor now wants expanded licensure applicable to long guns that are deemed as semiautomatic.

I wonder how they are going to minupulate that definition to all longarms, and eventually the main goal of these authoritarians are to ban guns altogether for civilians leaving only the authoritarians possessing arms.

The only thing I agree with the proposal is simply raising age requirements to 21 and reducing ammo capacity.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've heard they're not known for their accuracy. My dad's brother hunts with a flintlock, so I suppose they're good enough, but he's the only person I've known to use one. The rest is just what I've read about those fossils.

Flintlocks suffer most from the delay between
pulling the trigger, & the bullet leaving the barrel.
In that time, things move.

 

[Revoltingest]

That ole' trusty flintlock.

Made of the finest hardwood stock.

22LR single shot target rifles.

 

[Revoltingest]

Our idiot unelected NY governor now wants expanded licensure applicable to long guns that are deemed as semiautomatic.

I wonder how they are going to minupulate that definition to all longarms, and eventually the main goal of these authoritarians are to ban guns altogether for civilians leaving only the authoritarians possessing arms.

The only thing I agree with the proposal is simply raising age requirements to 21 and reducing ammo capacity.

We'll be facing increased regulation...it's inexorable.
The question is what kind of regulation will be both
useful & constitutional. Licensing could be that,
but only in concert with other policies, eg, secure
storage, comprehensive red flag restrictions.

 

[Truth in love]

Just another 2 bit hack dismissing any and all evidence that does not fit their vision of a utopian future where only the gov and bad guys are armed and the average person has to cower in fear.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sounds like a person who appreciated history and the spirit of frontiersmen.

No, he has such a nasty criminal history that even in Indiana and Arkansas he's not allowed to own much of anything else.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Just another 2 bit hack dismissing any and all evidence that does not fit their vision of a utopian future where only the gov and bad guys are armed and the average person has to cower in fear.

How about actually reading the article next time because it's not calling for a ban on guns.

 

[Truth in love]

How about actually reading the article next time because it's not calling for a ban on guns.

Thanks I did read. I summarized the implication.