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Biology, Politics, and the Left

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yup. Amd by the same process they can be removed. Which means they're really just glorified privileges.
As all rights of every type can be views.
Certain things entitle you to certain rights and privileges in relation to that thing. Such as library usage and medical rights. But those rights don't apply to all, as libraries are essentially membership clubs and the doctor's office is one of the few remaining places we can still expect privacy.
But ultimately people are not entitled to property as a right in Anerica.
Your argument is inconsistent...
Deny property rights, which exist in the Constitution.
Claim medical rights, which aren't enumerated.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Are all your arguments based on what was considered important in the 18th century?
As centuries go, it was a classic.
Things from it endure, eg, the Constitution,
the high pressure steam engine, soda water,
the flush toilet, the smallpox vaccine, the battery.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Your argument is inconsistent...
Deny property rights, which exist in the Constitution.
Claim medical rights, which aren't enumerated.
The Constitution grants protection from troop quartering and be secure in our person and property, but it doesn't entitle us to property as a right. It never has. Property ownership is a privilege in America, a privilege that initially afforded you the right to vote.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The Constitution grants protection from troop quartering and be secure in our person and property, but it doesn't entitle us to property as a right. It never has. Property ownership is a privilege in America, a privilege that initially afforded you the right to vote.
You should read the whole Bill Of Rights.
And you should study real estate law.
Property rights not only exist, but have
a large body of legislative & case law.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
You should read the whole Bill Of Rights.
And you should study real estate law.
Property rights not only exist, but have
a large body of legislative & case law.
Amd yet there is no right to property. All you've shown is you are entitled to additional rights once you possess property. But that does not mean you are entitled to property as a right.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's the fact we aren't entitled to property as a right.
Stating that it's a "fact" doesn't make it one.
It's worthwhile to become aware of the right
& its many complexities. This is especially so
if you ever possess real estate. Knowing the
law is most useful to spank lawyers....one of
life's greatest joys.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Stating that it's a "fact" doesn't make it one.
It's worthwhile to become aware of the right
& its many complexities. This is especially so
if you ever possess real estate. Knowing the
law is most useful to spank lawyers....one of
life's greatest joys.
Yes. You are entitled to certain rights if you own property. Voting used to be one of those rights, and today there are still various rights and responsibilities that come with real estate depending on the jurisdiction.
But if we actually were entitled to property as a right I'm sure you'd have more than a link listing things of what legislators should do. And indeed in America, and England as was explained, there is no right to property. At .most we had Jefferson's draft that entitled us to pursue the acquisition of property, but I'd still argue that itself stops short of actually entitling us to property as a right. It merely preserves our right to seek to acquire, but no right to actually acquire and obtain it.
 
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