Biden Administration Looking At Blocking The Sun?

[esmith]

One contributes and the other mitigates. The economics are that alternate energy is becoming ever cheaper compared to fossil fuels and there's no reason visible that won't continue. Personally I have a PHEV car because when I bought it the range etc of pure EV was not favorable. But today I'd almost certainly go EV.

Alternate energy may becoming cheaper but oneof the major factosr is "not in my basckyard". Eventually you are going to run out of real estate.
Not totally true, both cause problems. Fossile when it burns and renewable when components are mined.
Not everyone can afford to replace their non EV means of transportation.
Solar power for many is not financially feasible due to the "payback equation".

 

[Revoltingest]

"nuclear winter" effect.

No practical solar barrier would be big enuf
to cause that. (So I predict.)
But consider that a barrier that could be
launched into such an orbit could also
be disabled. And that might happen
naturally by solar wind & micro-meteorites.

 

[fantome profane]

No practical solar barrier would be big enuf
to cause that. (So I predict.)

Thank you professor, but can you cite any sources that support your prediction?

 

[Revoltingest]

Thank you professor, but can you cite any sources that support your prediction?

I'm just using common sense & a wee bit'o
experience in aerospace.
Pondering some factors....
Launching payloads into stable orbit is expensive.
Even though costs are dropping, expect around
$10,000 per pound. The orbit would be a high one,
an Earth-Sun Lagrange point in order to function
continuously.
A barrier that would have significant effect would
have to be big...really big. Even a thin reflective
aluminized Mylar one would weigh a lot. It would
need a deployment mechanism, structure, & a
maneuvering system that would need regular
refueling.
The barrier would have to be serviced & replaced
on some schedule as it degrades due to damage.

That's just the stuff that immediately comes to
mind for an ignorant groundskeeper. Our best
bet (IMO) is to take earthbound measures to
stabilize the climate. These have the side
benefit of reducing pollution.

 

[fantome profane]

I'm just using common sense & a wee bit'o
experience in aerospace.
Pondering some factors....
Launching payloads into stable orbit is expensive.
Even though costs are dropping, expect around
$10,000 per pound. The orbit would be a high one,
an Earth-Sun Lagrange point in order to function
continuously.
A barrier that would have significant effect would
have to be big...really big. Even a thin reflective
aluminized Mylar one would weigh a lot. It would
need a deployment mechanism, structure, & a
maneuvering system that would need regular
refueling.
The barrier would have to be serviced & replaced
on some schedule as it degrades due to damage.

That's just the stuff that immediately comes to
mind for an ignorant groundskeeper. Our best
bet (IMO) is to take earthbound measures to
stabilize the climate. These have the side
benefit of reducing pollution.

An aerosol suspension might much more efficient and cost efficient.

But I am not pretending to be a scientist either. But the point is that there may be solutions and concepts that you have not thought of or researched.

 

[Revoltingest]

An aerosol suspension might much more efficient and cost efficient.

But I am not pretending to be a scientist either. But the point is that there may be solutions and concepts that you have not thought of or researched.

Are you accusing me of not knowing everything?
Reported!
Mods....break his fingers!

 

[We Never Know]

Seems that someone found a White House document that is considering a study to block the sun to help prevent climate change.
However, the White House says there are no plans to study this.
Wonder what goof ball thought this one up.

Biden admin gets burned after considering study to 'block the sun'

Twitter users expressed confusion over a released document revealing that the Biden administration is studying how to block sunlight to prevent climate change.

www.foxnews.com

White House releases report on reflecting sunlight to cool the earth, no formal study planned now

On Friday, the White House released a report on solar geoengineering, which is a way of reflecting sunlight to cool the earth.

www.cnbc.com

If we weren't the most destructive worst species on the planet we wouldn't have to worry about it.

 

[Shaul]

Sounds like Hunter found a crack pipe.

 

[fantome profane]

Are you accusing me of not knowing everything?
Reported!
Mods....break his fingers!

jbh faffjoi m,ijafpijpimkl

 

[F1fan]

So, all you are saying is that the White House is lying when they said their are no plans?

The White House hasn't lied since the American people fired Trump.

Well one has to take into consideration ones rights to disagree with what you call sabotage
Also wonder if the White House has ever heard of "nuclear winter"

Sounds like one of Trump's crackpot ideas, maybe build a giant umbrella.

Biden brought in actual experts in science after Trump's depleated administration of fools and conmen. So we are in good hands.

Maybe stop using FOX for your "news". Don't you want to be informed?

 

[Revoltingest]

jbh faffjoi m,ijafpijpimkl

More left wing talking points, eh.

 

[We Never Know]

The White House hasn't lied since the American people fired Trump.

Sounds like one of Trump's crackpot ideas, maybe build a giant umbrella.

Biden brought in actual experts in science after Trump's depleated administration of fools and conmen. So we are in good hands.

Maybe stop using FOX for your "news". Don't you want to be informed?

"The White House hasn't lied since the American people fired Trump."

That's a bold claim. Claiming everything from the white house for the last 2 5 years has been true.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Don't have too much high expectations with this bunch. They are not known for their intelligence and foresight which is pretty obvious.

I would think conception of such a plan to be evidence of intelligence and foresight. Political responses are of little value in the assessment of intellect and don't require much to be levied.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Stop the false narrative that fossile fuel bad and alternate energy is good. Both have their place.
Stop attempting to scare people that the earth is in a death spiral.

Oh, my! We get treated to the Trumpian fake-news trope yet again.

Parenthetically, fossil fuels can be 'bad' and alternative energy 'good' while, simultaneously, both can "have their place,"

just not as part of a typical right-wing agenda.​

 

[sayak83]

Seems that someone found a White House document that is considering a study to block the sun to help prevent climate change.
However, the White House says there are no plans to study this.
Wonder what goof ball thought this one up.

Biden admin gets burned after considering study to 'block the sun'

Twitter users expressed confusion over a released document revealing that the Biden administration is studying how to block sunlight to prevent climate change.

www.foxnews.com

White House releases report on reflecting sunlight to cool the earth, no formal study planned now

On Friday, the White House released a report on solar geoengineering, which is a way of reflecting sunlight to cool the earth.

www.cnbc.com

Injecting aerosols in the upper atmosphere to decrease incoming solar radiation is being seriously studied for 5-6 years now. It's considered risky, but it may be one of the only emergency solution if current climate mitigation efforts fail and the effects of global warming become extremely damaging over the latter half of the century. Studying it is wise, in case it is needed.
It is actually funny that some global warming deniers are mocking such reports. These studies and simulations are as relevant as studying the effectiveness of USA's anti-ICBM shield defenses. Everybody hopes that there will not arise an occasion to use such strategies, but that is all the more reason to be dead sure that it will work if such days arise.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So, all you are saying is that the White House is lying when they said their are no plans?
Well one has to take into consideration ones rights to disagree with what you call sabotage
Also wonder if the White House has ever heard of "nuclear winter"

No, you merely misunderstood your links. Did you read them?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hi esmith

My "What could possibly go wrong??" was meant like this: [irony]What could possibly go wrong??[/irony]

A planetary-scale climate-change project like this appears to have a much higher likelihood of causing a global catastrophe than it does of preventing one.

The reluctance to even do a formal study is largely because people are worried about what could go wrong.

 

[Revoltingest]

"The White House hasn't lied since the American people fired Trump."

Except for when his lips are moving.