Biden Administration Looking At Blocking The Sun?

[esmith]

Seems that someone found a White House document that is considering a study to block the sun to help prevent climate change.
However, the White House says there are no plans to study this.
Wonder what goof ball thought this one up.

Biden admin gets burned after considering study to 'block the sun'

Twitter users expressed confusion over a released document revealing that the Biden administration is studying how to block sunlight to prevent climate change.

www.foxnews.com

White House releases report on reflecting sunlight to cool the earth, no formal study planned now

On Friday, the White House released a report on solar geoengineering, which is a way of reflecting sunlight to cool the earth.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Twilight Hue]

Seems that someone found a White House document that is considering a study to block the sun to help prevent climate change.
However, the White House says there are no plans to study this.
Wonder what goof ball thought this one up.

Biden admin gets burned after considering study to 'block the sun'

Twitter users expressed confusion over a released document revealing that the Biden administration is studying how to block sunlight to prevent climate change.

www.foxnews.com

White House releases report on reflecting sunlight to cool the earth, no formal study planned now

On Friday, the White House released a report on solar geoengineering, which is a way of reflecting sunlight to cool the earth.

www.cnbc.com

Don't have too much high expectations with this bunch. They are not known for their intelligence and foresight which is pretty obvious.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Seems that someone found a White House document that is considering a study to block the sun to help prevent climate change.
However, the White House says there are no plans to study this.

So, (a) the White House is considering a study ...
... while (b) saying that there are no plans to study this.

Yet your CNBC link reports:

The report from the White House says that a research agenda into solar radiation modification would sit next to “the foundational elements of greenhouse gas emissions mitigation and adaptation.” [ibid]​

Your thoughtful and dispassionate reporting is much appreciated.

Wonder what goof ball thought this one up.

Clearly not the goof balls that daily consider plans to sabotage LGBTQ+ and women's rights.

 

[esmith]

So, (a) the White House is considering a study ...
... while (b) saying that there are no plans to study this.

Yet your CNBC link reports:

The report from the White House says that a research agenda into solar radiation modification would sit next to “the foundational elements of greenhouse gas emissions mitigation and adaptation.” [ibid]​

Your thoughtful and dispassionate reporting is much appreciated.



Clearly not the goof balls that daily consider plans to sabotage LGBTQ+ and women's rights.

So, all you are saying is that the White House is lying when they said their are no plans?
Well one has to take into consideration ones rights to disagree with what you call sabotage
Also wonder if the White House has ever heard of "nuclear winter"

 

[Revoltingest]

Seems that someone found a White House document that is considering a study to block the sun to help prevent climate change.
However, the White House says there are no plans to study this.
Wonder what goof ball thought this one up.

Biden admin gets burned after considering study to 'block the sun'

Twitter users expressed confusion over a released document revealing that the Biden administration is studying how to block sunlight to prevent climate change.

www.foxnews.com

White House releases report on reflecting sunlight to cool the earth, no formal study planned now

On Friday, the White House released a report on solar geoengineering, which is a way of reflecting sunlight to cool the earth.

www.cnbc.com

It's a very old idea.
No one recently thought it up.

Are we complaining because the White
House says there are no plans to study it?
Why is it not worth considering?

 

[esmith]

It's a very old idea.
No one recently thought it up.

Are we complaining because the White
House says there are no plans to study it?
Why is it not worth considering?

Well maybe if you block the suns heating of the planet you would also be blocking the earths attempt to shed heat

How Earth sheds heat into space

New insights into the role of water vapor may help researchers predict how the planet will respond to warming.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[Revoltingest]

Well maybe if you block the suns heating of the planet you would also be blocking the earths attempt to shed heat

How Earth sheds heat into space

New insights into the role of water vapor may help researchers predict how the planet will respond to warming.

www.sciencedaily.com

If you consider the geometry of solar radiation
striking a barrier, & earthbound radiation
escaping, you'll see that there's a difference
in the barrier's effects.
Solar radiation mimics a point source. Escaping
radiation is a very very broad source, so the
barrier's effects are far less on it.

To illustrate the point, imagine a barrier about
the size of the Earth. It could block out all Sun.
But radiation from Earth would have many other
directions to escape.

I don't think it's practical.
But I've no expertise in this area.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So, all you are saying is that the White House is lying when they said their are no plans?

Once again your powers of deduction prove

shall we say​

entertaining.​

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

On the other hand, let's see if we can have a serious conversation.

So, tell us, @esmith, what do you think are the causes of climate changes, how serious are the likely effects absent human intervention, and what type of intervention would you deem appropriate?

 

[Yazata]

Block the Sun?

What could possibly go wrong??

 

[Watchmen]

But how will Superman get his energy?

 

[esmith]

On the other hand, let's see if we can have a serious conversation.

So, tell us, @esmith, what do you think are the causes of climate changes, how serious are the likely effects absent human intervention, and what type of intervention would you deem appropriate?

Causes of climate change? Various results from natural causes and people
Interaction that takes everything into consideration, in other words actions taken by man and the affects, both good and bad, resulting from those actions.

Intervention deemed appropriate
Develop fusion power.
Stop the false narrative that fossile fuel bad and alternate energy is good. Both have their place.
Stop attempting to scare people that the earth is in a death spiral.

 

[esmith]

Block the Sun?

What could possibly go wrong??

"nuclear winter" effect.

 

[esmith]

If you consider the geometry of solar radiation
striking a barrier, & earthbound radiation
escaping, you'll see that there's a difference
in the barrier's effects.
Solar radiation mimics a point source. Escaping
radiation is a very very broad source, so the
barrier's effects are far less on it.

To illustrate the point, imagine a barrier about
the size of the Earth. It could block out all Sun.
But radiation from Earth would have many other
directions to escape.

I don't think it's practical.
But I've no expertise in this area.

Neither do I; however how many ideas were put into place, by well meaning bodies, that proved to be a major problem.

 

[fantome profane]

Well maybe if you block the suns heating of the planet you would also be blocking the earths attempt to shed heat

hmmm, sounds like a good reason to study it. Donchathink?

 

[esmith]

hmmm, sounds like a good reason to study it. Donchathink?

As long as the pluses and minuses are studied and all results are revealed. And not go off half-cocked like the government is known to do.

 

[fantome profane]

As long as the pluses and minuses are studied and all results are revealed. And not go off half-cocked like the government is known to do.

fully cocked. check.

 

[Revoltingest]

Neither do I; however how many ideas were put into place, by well meaning bodies, that proved to be a major problem.

They're uncountable.
But I don't know if a solar shield might ever become practical.

 

[Yazata]

"nuclear winter" effect.

Hi esmith

My "What could possibly go wrong??" was meant like this: [irony]What could possibly go wrong??[/irony]

A planetary-scale climate-change project like this appears to have a much higher likelihood of causing a global catastrophe than it does of preventing one.

 

[sun rise]

Intervention deemed appropriate

I agree.

Develop fusion power.

I agree. It's being done but commercialization is a ways off, possibly quite a ways.

Stop the false narrative that fossile fuel bad and alternate energy is good. Both have their place.

One contributes and the other mitigates. The economics are that alternate energy is becoming ever cheaper compared to fossil fuels and there's no reason visible that won't continue. Personally I have a PHEV car because when I bought it the range etc of pure EV was not favorable. But today I'd almost certainly go EV.

Stop attempting to scare people that the earth is in a death spiral.

Fear and anger are everywhere. I agree we'd be better off without them and especially without those who promote it for profit and power. Will you admit that the right is as bad as the left here?