atheistic god

[ChristineM]

Romans 1:20

What has a bronze age verse to do with your claim maligning science

 

[Twilight Hue]

Romans 1:20

You could argue that this is occult in nature. Something Christianity is very adamant about, since the occult refers to what is hidden. It's a contradictory verse given Christians attitudes toward the occult.

 

[DavidFirth]

You could argue that this is occult in nature. Something Christianity is very adamant about, since the occult refers to what is hidden. It's a contradictory verse given Christians attitudes toward the occult.

Nonsense. Its simply a verse that states that since it is so obvious God created that unbelievers have no excuse to deny it. There is nothing occult about it.

 

[Polymath257]

Nonsense. Its simply a verse that states that since it is so obvious God created that unbelievers have no excuse to deny it. There is nothing occult about it.

You are correct, there is nothing occult about it.

But it is just plain false.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Nonsense. Its simply a verse that states that since it is so obvious God created that unbelievers have no excuse to deny it. There is nothing occult about it.

Back when the verse was written, and people believed the earth to be a large flat disk perhaps several thousand miles across, floating in the ether, with a set clear crystal domes/spheres that moved around it that carried the sun, moon, planets and stars around it, yeah, maybe it was obvious that God created the world, because no one could imagine how any people could build such a magical, mechanical contraption.

Today's understanding of the cosmos is much different, of course, and the assertion that God created the cosmos is 'obvious,' is, well, not at all obvious, and is much better explained using the lambda cold-dark-matter model than a flat world and crystalline spheres created and operated by God.

Of course, the lambda cold-dark matter model is probably not completely accurate, and may be overturned with the collection of more and different data. But it is not 'obvious' that an omnimax creator deity started or did anything else in this universe.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

i wonder, what kind of qualities should a god have, so that atheists would start believing in that god?

Easy! Have this 'god' being show up and say, "Hi!"

And to be completely fair? It would have to say "Hi!" in every language on Earth at the same time, and to every working brain (human or otherwise) capable of understanding the concept that a greeting-word represents.

Notebook: If there exists an AI somewhere that the general population is unaware of? This 'god' being would also need to say "hi!" to it, too-- in all fairness.

Of course, the 'god' in question may not actually be fair.... but that would mean it was evil.

 

[Joshua Pryce]

i wonder, what kind of qualities should a god have, so that atheists would start believing in that god?

All loving, merciful and just. He would have to be loving to deal fairly with oppression, He would have to be merciful to understand and know His creation, He would have to be just to fully engage with His creation, create law human and divine and give people what they deserve.