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Asking the question" why am i beliving what i do" in the religion one follows.

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Conscious thoughts, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    I believe the question "Why do i believe what I do" is a very important question to ask one self, and not to ask it toward others before one has understood ones own belief :)
    To truly be critical toward how and why one believes the way one does. or even ask, why do the scripture tell me to do so or so? What does it benefit me in this practice or belief?

    When I become a Sufi this is what I started to do, and I started to listen to everyone else, in the way that I wanted to understand why they have the view of what I believe as they do? Why do they ask all these difficult questions?
    And I believe now, they ask those questions because it is difficult to answer them. People want answers, but how can I answer if I do not know why I believe what I do :confused: I think it is because if I can not answer my own questions, how can I answer others :oops:

    Any thoughts? feel free to speak openly :)
     
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  2. Xavier Graham SA

    Xavier Graham SA God is Love, is love, is love. OM, AV KAH AHH!

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    If I could speak of my own personal faith.. I identify as a Baha’i because I believe in the overall objective that the faith has; the unification of mankind under a single moral world order.
    I have my reservations about the faith, such as their teachings on the Day of Judgement / Resurrection. As I read the Quran and see the Day of Judgement described, it makes me wonder if Baha’u’llah really fulfilled all of the prophecies, like the Baha’i faith purports. I simply haven’t read his own words yet, as I’m reading the Quran first.
    So I believe what I do, not because I’m sure I am correct, but I believe what I do because I think striving for unity in God is the single most important thing for us to do as a species. Even if I die a Baha’i and end up wrong, I’m hopeful my intent will allow me God’s mercy. I would like to be right in my beliefs, but it doesn’t matter if I’m right, it matters what I do as a result of my beliefs.
     
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  3. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    Thank you for sharing @Xavier Graham SA :)
    It is good people can speak from their own belief and faith in this thread yes.
     
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    I am very fortunate in that I realized some time ago that I don't need to "believe" anything about anything. That being here does not require my knowing what "here" is, or how I got here, or why I am here, or what any of it means.

    Being here is good enough. In fact, it's an amazing gift that I get to share with others. And it's all the more interesting because I don't know what it's all about, or for. I get to make it up as I go along, and not "believe in" any of it. :)
     
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  5. rational experiences

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    When I was a child I was forced to go to Catholic church. They spoke Latin I was bored and the priest scared me. He was often drunk and came to ask for money. We were poor. My father a drunk also made life difficult in my large family.

    One day I was allowed to stay home after church children bullied us as we did not go to Catholic school.

    I learnt inequality.

    I decided to study apply research to spirit conditions using meditation. Was it real as so many books by separately identified religious people and everyday humans said so.

    A spirit being felt by me spoke in my mind. As we have human sensing of bodies approaching. Yet I saw no one. Said as a man voice I have so much to teach you that you need to learn. Wish I could just give it all to you now. You have to live to learn.

    Hence I did. I learnt what I personally as a thinker could not perceive nor understand. How I learnt a spirit concept had in fact existed in the state with us in creation.

    Not science. It was naturally present. As I was not seeking science advice.

    When I later thought upon the advice I understood. It was like the missing parts of my human father's consciousness and bodily presence had come to teach me.

    As my real sexual bio father seemingly cared less and was vacant in my life.
     
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    After reading the Qur'an, and perhaps while you're doing so, read the Kitab-i-Iqan or the Book of Certitude in which He interprets the Day and Judgement and Resurrection.

    When the light of Qur’ánic Revelation was kindled within the chamber of Muḥammad’s holy heart, He passed upon the people the verdict of the Last Day, the verdict of resurrection, of judgment, of life, and of death. Thereupon the standards of revolt were hoisted, and the doors of derision opened. Thus hath He, the Spirit of God, recorded, as spoken by the infidels: “And if thou shouldst say, ‘After death ye shall surely be raised again,’ the infidels will certainly exclaim, ‘This is nothing but manifest sorcery.’” Again He speaketh: “If ever thou dost marvel, marvellous surely is their saying, ‘What! When we have become dust, shall we be restored in a new creation?’” Thus, in another passage, He wrathfully exclaimeth: “Are We wearied out with the first creation? Yet are they in doubt with regard to a new creation!”
    Qur’án 11:7.
    Qur’án 13:5.
    Qur’án 50:15.

    As the commentators of the Qur’án and they that follow the letter thereof misapprehended the inner meaning of the words of God and failed to grasp their essential purpose, they sought to demonstrate that, according to the rules of grammar, whenever the term “idhá” (meaning “if” or “when”) precedeth the past tense, it invariably hath reference to the future. Later, they were sore perplexed in attempting to explain those verses of the Book wherein that term did not actually occur. Even as He hath revealed: “And there was a blast on the trumpet,— lo! it is the threatened Day! And every soul is summoned to a reckoning,— with him an impeller and and a witness.” In explaining this and similar verses, they have in some cases argued that the term “idhá” is implied. In other instances, they have idly contended that whereas the Day of Judgment is inevitable, it hath therefore been referred to as an event not of the future but of the past. How vain their sophistry! How grievous their blindness! They refuse to recognize the trumpet-blast which so explicitly in this text was sounded through the revelation of Muḥammad. They deprive themselves of the regenerating Spirit of God that breathed into it, and foolishly expect to hear the trumpet-sound of the Seraph of God who is but one of His servants! Hath not the Seraph himself, the angel of the Judgment Day, and his like been ordained by Muḥammad’s own utterance? Say: What! Will ye give that which is for your good in exchange for that which is evil? Wretched is that which ye have falsely exchanged! Surely ye are a people, evil, in grievous loss.
    Qur’án 50:20.

    Nay, by “trumpet” is meant the trumpet-call of Muḥammad’s Revelation, which was sounded in the heart of the universe, and by “resurrection” is meant His own rise to proclaim the Cause of God. He bade the erring and wayward arise and speed out of the sepulchres of their bodies, arrayed them with the beauteous robe of faith, and quickened them with the breath of a new and wondrous life. Thus at the hour when Muḥammad, that divine Beauty, purposed to unveil one of the mysteries hidden in the symbolic terms “resurrection,” “judgment,” “paradise,” and “hell,” Gabriel, the Voice of Inspiration, was heard saying: “Erelong will they wag their heads at Thee, and say, ‘When shall this be?’ Say: ‘Perchance it is nigh.’” The implications of this verse alone suffice the peoples of the world, were they to ponder it in their hearts. Qur’án 17:51.
    Bahá’u’lláh, "The Kitáb-i-Íqán", 123

    This is just a short sample. The Resurrection and the Day of Judgment symbolisms are discussed in there.

    You access the Kitabi-Iqan free at the Baha'i Reference Library or Ocean 2.0.

    Bahá’í Reference Library | The Bahá’í Faith (bahai.org)

    . ㊪ sacred-traditions.org

    Ocean has also scriptures from other religions. A good feature of Ocean is that you can read a scripture and if you go back into it will be in the same place of the scripture. The Baha'i reference library is usually a better way to use key words to look for specific Baha'i scriptures on a subject.
     
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  7. syo

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    It makes sense.
     
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