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[TagliatelliMonster]

Same old same old, no answer, just " You don't get it " A population cannot advance unless a change becomes fixed in the population. If it just dies out nothing changes.

And if it doesn't die out and becomes fixed, then it becomes fixed.

What's your point? Do you even have a point?
Because it rather sounds like you are desperately trying to cling to anything that you feel like you can use to argue against established science that happens to contradict your a priori religious beliefs.

 

[tas8831]

It's the whole basis for evolution even happening on a macro scale, although it still falls short as an explanation.

So, no citation - no support for your claim.
To be expected.

 

[tas8831]

Same old same old, no answer, just " You don't get it "

Well...

A population cannot advance

What do you mean "advance"?

unless a change becomes fixed in the population. If it just dies out nothing changes.

And?

Oh - still waiting for your definition of "biological information" and what counts as an 'increase' in it, and why this is necessary for evolution to occur.
And 'it just is' is insufficient.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Same old same old, no answer, just " You don't get it " A population cannot advance unless a change becomes fixed in the population. If it just dies out nothing changes.

Actually I asked you a question. A question you didn't answer here for some reason.

Here's another one ... Do you expect me to just pretend you get it when it doesn't appear that you do and won't answer any questions?

 

[Wildswanderer]

"another level"? What does that even mean?

If a mutation doesn't become fixed, then it gets lost in the pages of genetic history.
So what?

So, nothing happens. And since most mutations do nothing, the entire theory doesn't work.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

So, nothing happens. And since most mutations do nothing, the entire theory doesn't work.

I think it's cute how you jumped from "not all beneficial mutations are guaranteed fixation" to "therefor no mutation, beneficial or otherwise, gets to fixation".


I shouldn't have to explain how stupid that is.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I think it's cute how you jumped from "not all beneficial mutations are guaranteed fixation" to "therefor no mutation, beneficial or otherwise, gets to fixation".


I shouldn't have to explain how stupid that is.

Actually I didn't do that.. your brain did.

 

[Jose Fly]

Evolutionary biologists often assume that once mutations produce a functionally advantageous trait, it will easily spread (become “fixed”) throughout a population by natural selection.

Still waiting for a citation to where a scientist does that.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Actually I didn't do that.. your brain did.

No, you definatly did that.

You asked "what if a mutation doesn't achieve fixation"
I responded with "then it gets lost in the pages of history"

And from there you concluded that therefor evolution is false because then "nothing happens".
So yes, you definitely jumped from "not all mutations achieve fixation" to "therefor none do".

If that isn't what you meant, then I have NO CLUE what you meant with this post:

So, nothing happens. And since most mutations do nothing, the entire theory doesn't work.

Or is the problem maybe that you aren't even able to keep track of your own claims?

 

[Wildswanderer]

No, you definatly did that.

You asked "what if a mutation doesn't achieve fixation"
I responded with "then it gets lost in the pages of history"

And from there you concluded that therefor evolution is false because then "nothing happens".
So yes, you definitely jumped from "not all mutations achieve fixation" to "therefor none do".

If that isn't what you meant, then I have NO CLUE what you meant with this post:



Or is the problem maybe that you aren't even able to keep track of your own claims?

Most mutations, most mutations, most mutations... there did you get that part now?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Most mutations, most mutations, most mutations... there did you get that part now?

Most mutations are neutral, yes.
Do you think you told me something I didn't already know?

How does that translate to "therefor, the entire theory doesn't work"?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Most mutations are neutral, yes.
Do you think you told me something I didn't already know?

How does that translate to "therefor, the entire theory doesn't work"?

You apparently think you know everything. Have a nice life.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You apparently think you know everything. Have a nice life.

I'm just asking you a question so that you may clarify your own statement. Which is the opposite of thinking "i know everything", because then I wouldn't be asking you questions about what it is that you mean, now would I?

Apparently that is to much to ask.

Do you understand how your refusal to answer and dismissal of the question with a random handwaving statement comes across?