So who is being harmed or victimized is irrelevant in this system of categorization.
I genuinely have no idea what you mean by this statement/question. Forgive me for my deficiency in understanding.
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So who is being harmed or victimized is irrelevant in this system of categorization.
So basically its worse to attack the creator than the creation?
In what way is murder an attack against god, when it is clearly the creature being murdered who is being attacked and harmed?In that it separates you more immediately from God, yes. Although they are not unrelated, for St. John the Apostle teaches "whoever loves God loves his neighbor," but this is because loving God includes loving all He does and so on, which includes making and preserving creatures and drawing them to Himself, so it is that whoever loves God loves his neighbor because of God.
In that it separates you more immediately from God, yes. Although they are not unrelated, for St. John the Apostle teaches "whoever loves God loves his neighbor," but this is because loving God includes loving all He does and so on, which includes making and preserving creatures and drawing them to Himself, so it is that whoever loves God loves his neighbor because of God.
In what way is murder an attack against god, when it is clearly the creature being murdered who is being attacked and harmed?
Ah, so you're separating sins against humans vs. sins against other creatures.In my opinion: it is an indirect (I saw indirect because your immediate aim is to cause death in this creature, usually at least) attack against God because as Moses teaches "God made man according to the image of God," and in the Psalter it says "the earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof; the world, and all that dwell in it," (not to the exclusion of things not in Earth for many other verses teach all things including this are God's). So by murder one in essence damaging what is God's and attacking the sign of His dominion in the world (at least according to one understanding of the Image of God, which I currently agree with but may very well be wrong), like attacking the vicar of a king is simply considered going against the king also.
Ah, so you're separating sins against humans vs. sins against other creatures.
5.“Thou shalt not kill.” ...
Fair enough, you're suddenly getting serious - better tell the soldiers not to kill in battle.
What about a female killing an abusive uncle?Staying away from literalism of a certain version of the Bible, the way this is often put is "don't murder".
What about a female killing an abusive uncle?
Look, I'm being pedantic BUT it underlines the fact that the commandments are not very good
Obviously not.Are all sins equal or are some worse than others
For example the 10 commandments are..
Is it just as bad to lie as it is to kill?
- I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” ...
- “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” ...
- “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” ...
- “Honor thy father and mother.” ...
- “Thou shalt not kill.” ...
- “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” ...
- “Thou shalt not steal.”
- “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.”
I would say they are not equal in weight but are equal in its capacity to hinder your relationship with your loving Creator.Are all sins equal or are some worse than others
For example the 10 commandments are..
Is it just as bad to lie as it is to kill?
- I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” ...
- “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” ...
- “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” ...
- “Honor thy father and mother.” ...
- “Thou shalt not kill.” ...
- “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” ...
- “Thou shalt not steal.”
- “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.”
"You shall not murder"
But you know, when you really do look deeply, there is much that is negative. Worse, there is much that simply ignores the immense diversity of human life.I find it interesting that you have thought about them so much that you took the time to dissect them down to turn/try to turn them into something negative.
I'm better than God. I can forgive without the shedding of blood.I would say they are not equal in weight but are equal in its capacity to hinder your relationship with your loving Creator.
Thank you, Jesus, for the blood you shed on Calvary and the cleansing power thereof no matter how weighty my sins were, are or will be and for your resurrection power.
Yes... you are god above gods.I'm better than God. I can forgive without the shedding of blood.
Really sin is sin... The only real difference is some have greater penalties in this life. From a human standpoint some of them seem a lot worse than others, but from God's standpoint I believe all are equal.Are all sins equal or are some worse than others
For example the 10 commandments are..
Is it just as bad to lie as it is to kill?
- I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” ...
- “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” ...
- “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” ...
- “Honor thy father and mother.” ...
- “Thou shalt not kill.” ...
- “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” ...
- “Thou shalt not steal.”
- “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.”
Really sin is sin... The only real difference is some have greater penalties in this life. From a human standpoint some of them seem a lot worse than others, but from God's standpoint I believe all are equal.
Simple rules (like the commandments) -- if and only if they are used as nothing more than guidelines -- can be a handy sort of template. But when they become dogma, they can also become nightmares.
I was an abused child, almost killed twice before I was 7 years old and taken away by the Children's Aid. Okay, talk to me about "honour thy father and thy mother."
When I was in my teens, and homeless on the streets of Toronto, the world shut down on Sunday's, and I had quite literally no place to go. How did "honour the Sabbath day" help me? I was -- I tell you this in all truth -- utterly miserable.
It alarms me that some Christians want to say that all sins are equal. After all, the torah makes it very clear that they aren't by giving very different penalties for different things.Are all sins equal or are some worse than others
For example the 10 commandments are..
Is it just as bad to lie as it is to kill?
- I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” ...
- “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” ...
- “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” ...
- “Honor thy father and mother.” ...
- “Thou shalt not kill.” ...
- “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” ...
- “Thou shalt not steal.”
- “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.”
- “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.”