AR-15 massacres 9 shoppers and cop!

[We Never Know]

They als

Why not just be direct about your position and say that you want to keep arming criminals?


Shows just what sorts of restrictions are actually allowed by the Second Amendment, doesn't it?

You live by your queens rules and I will live by the constitution.

 

[We Never Know]

You may not have noticed, but people can freely travel from cities and suburbs to the country.

Ban guns from being allowed in cities and suburbs. That's where mass shooting happing 99.99999% of the time.
No mass shooter's will drive hours to oklahomastan to kill 3 people lol.
For the record the "lol" is for the word oklahomastan. A trait of @Revoltingest

Make them like fireworks, illegal in the city limits.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Ban guns from being allowed in cities and suburbs. That's where mass shooting happing 99.99999% of the time.
No mass shooter's will drive hours to oklahomastan to kill 3 people lol.
For the record the "lol" is for the word oklahomastan. A trait of @Revoltingest

Make them like fireworks, illegal in the city limits.

Not exactly interested in painting a picture of firearms owners as reasonable and responsible, are you?

 

[We Never Know]

Not exactly interested in painting a picture of firearms owners as reasonable and responsible, are you?

On the contrary. 99.9999% of gun owners are responsible. You are not exactly interested in painting a picture of that are you?

 

[Shaul]

Revolvers can't generally shoot as fast, and overall if we look at something like bullets fired per minute, the AR 15 will dominate over any revolver simple due to a larger ammo capacity. Amd the "tricks" and modifications for an AR 15 aren't like cowboy shooting with a revolver. Anyone and their dead granny can easily turn an AR15 into a full-auto assault riffle. And, ultimately, the AR15 is the civilian version of the M16. Ultimately the AR15 is a great killing machine. Ultimately and unfortunately it seems popular among mass shooters.

All firearms can kill. A simple auto loader makes a revolver a quick load. Plus because they are smaller it is easy to carry more than one revolver. Plus you are ignoring that rapid firing is not the important factor. Rapid hitting is. There have been all together too many mass murders in which the killer used pistols and revolvers. Did you already forget last week’s shooting in Atlanta? The killer used a 9mm gun, not an AR15. He was able to kill 8 people. Banning AR15 rifles would not eliminate mass murders.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

On the contrary. 99.9999% of gun owners are responsible. You are not exactly interested in painting a picture of that are you?

Wouldn't know it from this thread.

 

[We Never Know]

All firearms can kill. A simple auto loader makes a revolver a quick load. Plus because they are smaller it is easy to carry more than one revolver. Plus you are ignoring that rapid firing is not the important factor. Rapid hitting is. There have been all together too many mass murders in which the killer used pistols and revolvers. Did you already forget last week’s shooting in Atlanta? The killer used a 9mm gun, not an AR15. He was able to kill 8 people. Banning AR15 rifles would not eliminate mass murders.

Also don'tnt forget knives!

33 Dead, 130 Injured in China Knife-Wielding Spree

https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna41966?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16165435662956&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/33-dead-130-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966

 

[We Never Know]

Wouldn't know it from this thread.

Know what?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

All firearms can kill. A simple auto loader makes a revolver a quick load. Plus because they are smaller it is easy to carry more than one revolver. Plus you are ignoring that rapid firing is not the important factor. Rapid hitting is. There have been all together too many mass murders in which the killer used pistols and revolvers. Did you already forget last week’s shooting in Atlanta? The killer used a 9mm gun, not an AR15. He was able to kill 8 people. Banning AR15 rifles would not eliminate mass murders.

Agreed. Banning handguns would be the best way to address firearm deaths. Anything short of that is just dancing around the issue.

 

[Shaul]

Even if they're not fully auto, they are still far more powerful than a revolver and cause far more damage very quickly. They are easily modifiable and you can use certain rounds to make it even deadlier. The El Paso shooter used hollow point type of bullet to cause more catastrophic damage: El Paso Shooter Coveted ‘Most Lethal’ Rifle Ammunition on the Market

(I saw footage from the El Paso shooting of the victims. They were literally blown away.)

That entirely depends on many factors. A pistol is plenty powerful enough and can be more powerful than a particular rifle. Plus a pistol can be concealed. Last week’s Atlanta shooter used a 9mm gun. AR15s are not used in mass murder as often as handguns,

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Know what?

That whatever-number-you-pulled-out-of-your-butt% of gun owners are responsible.

I'm on the edge of writing you off as a poe who's here to make gun owners look bad.

 

[We Never Know]

That whatever-number-you-pulled-out-of-your-butt% of gun owners are responsible.

I'm on the edge of writing you off as a poe who's here to make gun owners look bad.

Lol. Now you turn to personal attack. A reckon my point has been shown. I think we are done now.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Perhaps legislation like the National Firearms Act of 1934, which effectively prevented gangsters from having fully automatic guns, could also be implemented in order to keep gangsters (edited) **or the criminally insane** from having semi auto assault rifles.

I doubt it. Large cartels can make more money than some governments which is why they are difficult to destroy.

Their structure is similar to an Oligopoly.


Do You Really Think Mexican Drug Cartels Need to Buy "Assault Rifles" From Bob's Gun Store? - The Truth About Guns

 

[We Never Know]

Legally it is defined differently and it must be full auto.

True but lack of knowledge is why people look at a 22lr modeled to look like and AR and call it an assault weapon.

 

[We Never Know]

Per wikipedia, "An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine." Assault rifle - Wikipedia

Selective fire being the key term here.

 

[We Never Know]

These however ARE ASSULT WEAPONS DESIGNED TO KILL HUMANS and anything else they come across.

Enjoy the music as well.

 

[Audie]

"BOULDER, Colo. -- Police on Tuesday identified a 21-year-old man as the suspect who opened fire inside a crowded Colorado supermarket in an attack that killed 10 people, including an officer, and sent terrorized shoppers and employees scrambling for cover.

Authorities said Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa was from the Denver suburb of Arvada and that he engaged in a shootout with police Monday afternoon inside the Boulder store. The suspect was being treated at a hospital and was expected to be booked into the county jail later in the day on murder charges.

A law enforcement official briefed on the shooting told The Associated Press that the gunman used an AR-15 rifle, a lightweight semiautomatic rifle. Officials were trying to trace the weapon. The official was not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to AP on condition of anonymity."

Reference: Colorado grocery store shooting suspect ID'd as man, 21; victims between 20-65

I'm sick and tired of all these mass shootings. I'd like there to be a ban on the private ownership of any firearm weapons capable of continuously firing more than a handful amount of high caliber bullets being discharged within a minute. Hunters and gun enthusiasts could still be allowed to legally own shotguns, bolt-action rifles, and six shot revolver pistols while mass shootings would become nearly impossible.

I tried to convince my Amrtican boyfriend years
ago on that idea.

He convinced me very easily that I, like
you, had no idea what I was talking about.

I will refrain from giving any particulars but he
also pointed out that for mass killing a gun plus untrained shooter is very inefficient.

There are way worse weapons, easily obtained and used.

Any notion that firearms laws are going to stop
a determined killer is fantasy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hunters, competitive shooters, and antique firearm collectors shouldn't be tarred with the same brush as people who keep caches of guns to be ready to use them against people (euphenistically called "self defense" weapons).

That's what scars me about many of them. They make it clear they are very willing to kill someone, some of them even eagerly so. Just looking for a reason to shoot something.
It probably won't be much longer before we see our first shooting where one or more good guys with a gun makes things painfully and tragically worse.
And, realistically, that is not the time to be addressing gun violence because at that point it's too late. Hero vigilantes are not solving or addressing the problem. And, as we've seen, to avoid wanna be Rambos and pretend cowboys these people will rain bullets down from a hotel room high above. They'll pull the fire alarm and open fire from the woods as people exit the building.
We need to fix this before it happens, not during or after.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Any notion that firearms laws are going to stop
a determined killer is fantasy.

Then why do we see more things like knives being used in other countries, and far fewer people being killed in these attacks?

 

[Deeje]

Good luck getting anyone to actually address the issues and come up with actual working solutions.
They been at if for decades and still have not figured out that merely banning things does not even slow it down, let alone stop it.

Isn't that because you have to change the mentality of your citizens? This whole gun ownership mentality was OK in the wild west, but suburbia ain't the Alamo....

Why does America have a ridiculously disproportionate murder rate with easy gun ownership of rapid fire weapons, compared to every other nation? Do you guys understand how ridiculous you appear to be in this world, thinking that your guns will stop people being killed?? Or that if you need to fight your government that they won't have weapons that make yours look like water pistols?

Do you understand that constantly being fed fear in your media has made you all afraid of your own neighbors? From a perspective outside of America's, you are painting yourselves as the most uncivilized people on the planet......it isn't terrorists you need protection from...its your own citizens! What's up with that?

In Australia we have stringent gun laws, and assault weapons are banned. Only criminals want them and only the police can fire back legally anyway. It is illegal to discharge a firearm in a suburban area. Only farmers and rifle club members can be licensed to own firearms and they have to be locked away when not in use....no automatic weapons are permitted.

I don't think we will ever understand the mentality that feeds you love affair with weapons......