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Wow! What a great question! I'd call that a winner.If you think that the statements "God exist" and "God does not exist" can't have any meaning, what about "I exist" and "I do not exist"?
Apop what now?If you think that the statements "God exist" and "God does not exist" can't have any meaning, what about "I exist" and "I do not exist"?
Is replying to yourself part of the thread vibe? Apoptosis is a word I would like to use in a sentence one day.Wow! What a great question! I'd call that a winner.
I never gave it much thought because I never really cared, but it looks different to me from "God exists" and "God does not exist." When I say that those have no meaning to me, that only applies if "God" is supposed to be unknowable. I'm not claiming to be unknowable, and I've never seen or heard of anyone thinking that I am, so it's a different question from whether or not "I exist" and "I do not exist" can have some meaning. I think that I'll think about whether I think that I think that those can have some meaning.
Just a way to start the discussion, with an attempt at humor added.Is replying to yourself part of the thread vibe? Apoptosis is a word I would like to use in a sentence one day.
You just di -- Oh.Is replying to yourself part of the thread vibe? Apoptosis is a word I would like to use in a sentence one day.
"I" intersects "It."I sex it
I don’t understand"I" intersects "It."
I sex it
"I" intersects "It."
Okay, how about this:I don’t understand
Yes, that’s a very good point. The answer to the question “Do I exist?” might be different according to which way the “I” is pointing. But … but I don’t know which way is the other way. Yes, that might be an unknowable too. But is it unknowable by definition? Maybe.At the risk of steering this thread back on topic, what does "I" point to?
Ah it rhymes"I" intersects "It."
The experience of existing?At the risk of steering this thread back on topic, what does "I" point to?
Experiencing requires an experiencer. (Or does it?) But who or what is experiencing our thoughts our imagination, and our sense of self ? Some us might say our brains or some other part of our body, but some of us doubt that or even reject it as I unfounded or maybe even contrary to experience somehow.The experience of existing?
I mean in the sense that the experience is the self. As in the collection of inputs and attempts to decipher those, and so on, that make up our experience of the world and of self. Maybe the self is just the sum of that interpretation of inputs, and not an additional layer that reflects on that aggregate from a remove.Experiencing requires an experiencer. (Or does it?) But who or what is experiencing our thoughts our imagination, and our sense of self ? Some us might say our brains or some other part of our body, but some of us doubt that or even reject it as I unfounded or maybe even contrary to experience somehow.
When you say, "I," is it the experience of existing that you are referring to?The experience of existing?
I think ‘I' can be thought of as an experiential construct.When you say, "I," is it the experience of existing that you are referring to?
I can see it that way, but the construct could be reaching for something that is real, like a plant growing towards the sun. But what would "real" mean in that case?I think ‘I' can be thought of as an experiential construct.