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Antichrist

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yes an archetype that we are bringing to life.
then if "we" are doing it, why are you worried about ai? why not worry about the we? he who fears is not made perfect in unconditional love. it's hard enough for humans to become self-aware, let alone a machine that someone created. the anti-christ is referred to as a beast in revelation.

but in 1 John 2:22 and 2 John 1:7 it is referred to literally as a person. or it can be persons depending on their behavior. it doesn't reference a machine
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
but in 1 John 2:22 and 2 John 1:7 it is referred to literally as a person. or it can be persons depending on their behavior. it doesn't reference a machine
The Bible says that the Anti-Christ is a person who...

1. Denies that Jesus is the Christ.


1 John Chapter 2
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

2. Denies the Father and the Son.

1 John Chapter 2
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

3. Denies that Jesus came in the flesh and cleansed us of sin.

1 John Chapter 4
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 John Chapter 1
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

4. Is equated with deceivers and linked with false prophets.

1 John Chapter 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

5. Is already in the world during the writing of the epistles of John (100 AD)

1 John Chapter 4
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

6. Is a former Christian.

1 John Chapter 2
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The Bible says that the Anti-Christ is a person who...

1. Denies that Jesus is the Christ.


1 John Chapter 2
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

2. Denies the Father and the Son.

1 John Chapter 2
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

3. Denies that Jesus came in the flesh and cleansed us of sin.

1 John Chapter 4
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 John Chapter 1
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

4. Is equated with deceivers and linked with false prophets.

1 John Chapter 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

5. Is already in the world during the writing of the epistles of John (100 AD)

1 John Chapter 4
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

6. Is a former Christian.

1 John Chapter 2
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
number 6 is wrong. the term christian was a term paul used. none of the 12 others used it in reference. christians grand-fathered the idea into their business.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Duly noted.
even in revelation there is given the idea of what was a jew or jewish. a jew is one that knows what god is. this is what jesus tells the woman at the well. that she must worship in spirit, that which is within her and not in some other place.

john 4






matthew 19:14
 
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King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
AI is the chosen one.
We will choose it.
We already have.
The chosen one is a man and when this man dies all of existence goes with him. So no, AI isn’t him. Of course this man will be reborn along with a new earth to relive his same life again. On and on it goes. Similar to the philosophical concept of eternal return.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Does AI have the potential to become the antichrist?
It has potential to become this:

And was given to it to give a spirit to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak, and might cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev. 13:15
 

allfoak

Alchemist
then if "we" are doing it, why are you worried about ai? why not worry about the we? he who fears is not made perfect in unconditional love. it's hard enough for humans to become self-aware, let alone a machine that someone created. the anti-christ is referred to as a beast in revelation.

but in 1 John 2:22 and 2 John 1:7 it is referred to literally as a person. or it can be persons depending on their behavior. it doesn't reference a machine
Neurolink
 

allfoak

Alchemist
The christian antichrist? That would be an honour.
I am not Christian.
The antichrist is a term that I use because of its Greek definition.
The true Christ is inside of us all.
The antichrist is someone outside of ourselves who is worshipped as the Christ.
It's a simple definition that has nothing to do with Christianity and it's fantasies.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
again its an archetype, like the shadow. it isn't something that goes into someone, it's what is coming out of the subconscious/unconscious
The term "subconscious mind" seems to be one of those concepts that is not well known although we use it as if we know what it is.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The term "subconscious mind" seems to be one of those concepts that is not well known although we use it as if we know what it is.
well known isn't an issue, totaling ignoring it is. know thyself is part of the process to self-realization. the journey is involuted and then evoluted. like the idea of brahman in hinduism
 

allfoak

Alchemist
well known isn't an issue, totaling ignoring it is. know thyself is part of the process to self-realization. the journey is involuted and then evoluted. like the idea of brahman in hinduism
it is an issue when people are using the same term to mean different things.
I get all of the woo woo stuff.
I want solid information.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
it is an issue when people are using the same term to mean different things.
I get all of the woo woo stuff.
I want solid information

yet the theme of this thread isn't solid information. it's speculation and belief at best. belief isn't solid. this is just my reflection.


dualists often project their beliefs upon reality and cease to question the belief. simply because someone might imprison a body, doesn't mean they can necessarily control/imprison the mind. if anything, the implant would be like possession. two consciousnesses inhabiting one chemical body. more dualism
 
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