Anti-trans bill passes in Kentucky

[Shadow Wolf]

The tattoo was a decision I made based on how I felt at the time, who I thought I was. The fact that it is nowhere as drastic as a medical transition is exactly my point: people that age don't always fully understand themselves and make rash decisions. One rash decision as irreversible as a gender swap is clearly not a good thing.

Did you have a team of medical professionals assisting you and guiding you with this decision regarding your tattoo?
And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You can't do a gender swap on a whim or a rash decision. Such as, with genital surgery you can't get it (without lying) until you've lived as your identified sex, full time, for at least a year.
And the history of treating gender dysphoria has indeed showed improved rates of success and reduced amount of regrets through having a process and system in place to screen people and professionally monitor transitioning.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Who are the experts on transgenderism?

Ask yourself, who is the expert in a medical subject? This is the providers and researchers who work with and study this subject. And as this is a medical subject continued education is a requirement for experts.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Are you aware of how easy it used to be, and likely still is, to get a doctors diagnosis for ADD and get medication for it? We shouldn’t pretend that doctors are infallible or that it is beyond a teenager’s ability to exaggerate things (not necessarily intentionally) and manipulate the doctors diagnosis that way.

****ing damn near impossible when you're an adult.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Kentucky Republicans pass legislation protecting children from sexual mutilations.

And irreversible regret.

Adults fine.

For the childern? Democrats are hypocrites like usual.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"Doctors would have to agree that the child is trans"

What has to happen for the Dr to agree?

If you want a full summary then look into the WPATH Standards of Care.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And irreversible regret.

Adults fine.

For the childern? Democrats are hypocrites like usual.

And you pretend you know better than the experts and let your own hypocrisy fly unashamed.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And you pretend you know better than the experts and let your own hypocrisy fly unashamed.

Sometimes people create their own problems.

 

[We Never Know]

From a medical standpoint, this is a good start.

That doesn't say much. What are the clinical guidelines for a diagnosis of transgenderism/gender dysphoria

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Did you have a team of medical professionals assisting you and guiding you with this decision regarding your tattoo?
And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You can't do a gender swap on a whim or a rash decision. Such as, with genital surgery you can't get it (without lying) until you've lived as your identified sex, full time, for at least a year.
And the history of treating gender dysphoria has indeed showed improved rates of success and reduced amount of regrets through having a process and system in place to screen people and professionally monitor transitioning.

****ing damn near impossible when you're an adult.

I would give you an informative frubal.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you aware of how easy it used to be, and likely still is, to get a doctors diagnosis for ADD and get medication for it? We shouldn’t pretend that doctors are infallible or that it is beyond a teenager’s ability to exaggerate things (not necessarily intentionally) and manipulate the doctors diagnosis that way.

No one is saying that they are infallible, but I do not seen teens faking trans to get puberty blockers. One may abuse ADD drugs. How would you abuse puberty blockers?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"experts"? Oh, you mean people that want to "help" minors through sexual mutilation.

No, I mean people with medical schooling, training and experience and not your partisan Qanon-like boogeymen.

 

[dybmh]

There are legit reasons for concern.

Why detransitioners are crucial to the science of gender care

Understanding why people quit treatment is key to improving it, especially for minors seeking to transition, experts say. Researchers rarely touch the subject.

www.reuters.com

Edit: there are legit reasons for concern for children transitioning and later regretting it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sometimes people create their own problems.

No, you just listen to partisan drivel while tuning out the evidence based positions and make it so obvious you don't know anything about the subject that if you knew any better you'd be deeply shamed and embarrassed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There are legit reasons for concern.

Why detransitioners are crucial to the science of gender care

Understanding why people quit treatment is key to improving it, especially for minors seeking to transition, experts say. Researchers rarely touch the subject.

www.reuters.com

Interesting. I can see why the transgender feel a threat from those that detransition. The transgender have even more prejudice against them than there is against gay people. The problem is that gender is not set in stone. Most of use will always be cis. A few will be trans. And the trans themselves may vary in their gender over their lifetime. I won't put any boundaries on a person. It is best to just accept them as they say that they are.

 

[dybmh]

Interesting. I can see why the transgender feel a threat from those that detransition. The transgender have even more prejudice against them than there is against gay people. The problem is that gender is not set in stone. Most of use will always be cis. A few will be trans. And the trans themselves may vary in their gender over their lifetime. I won't put any boundaries on a person. It is best to just accept them as they say that they are.

I editted my post. I wasn't clear. There are legit reasons for concern about children transitioning and regretting it. I think that is clearly detailed in the article.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, you just listen to partisan drivel while tuning out the evidence based positions and make it so obvious you don't know anything about the subject that if you knew any better you'd be deeply shamed and embarrassed.

Nothing you can do about it.

No more than I can in the People's Republic of New York.

 

[SomeRandom]

Nothing you can do about it.

No more than I can in the People's Republic of New York.

So you just give up?

I thought Americans were all about freedom and fighting against the government imposing upon them?
That the government shouldn’t be telling you how to raise your kids, gosh darn it!!!

Where’s that fighting zeal I’ve heard so much about from the land of the free and home of the brave?!

 

[Twilight Hue]

So you just give up?

I thought Americans were all about freedom and fighting against the government imposing upon them?
That the government shouldn’t be telling you how to raise your kids, gosh darn it!!!

Where’s that fighting zeal I’ve heard so much about from the land of the free and home of the brave?!

Good question.

 

[SomeRandom]

Good question.

Is there an answer to go with it?
I mean I feel like there’s an air of defeat and sense of dejection.
That makes me sad

I mean these kinds of bills, I thought went against the very backbone of American ideals.
Doesn’t it?
That the government should mind its own damned business and let parents make their own decisions regarding their kids?
Right?

 

[Sand Dancer]

I'm very glad that I did not follow the course of my life that I had thought it would be at 16/17. It's likely teenagers with gender dysphoria do not have a grasp on their identity or sexuality, and therefore it's best they wait until they're older. I personally feel even 18 is a bit too young for medical transitioning. When I was 18 I got what I thought was an amazing tattoo that I put a lot of thought into and thought I wanted it for life. Now, at 27, I'd rather not have that tattoo. I can't imagine making a decision to sexually mutilate myself at that age and grow up no longer feeling that way.

The thing is true transgender people show signs of it early in life, as children generally gender identify by 3. If it continues until the teen years, it's generally not a "fad." LGBT people generally know they are that before puberty, just like hetero and cis people do.