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American Military to Have Sikh Turbans Allowed
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freethinker44
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It's a victory in name only. They added that "mission dictates" clause, and one thing I learned in my time in the military was "mission dictates" means it's never going to happen. I've seen so many people screwed over with that.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
quite right as well!
in the uk sikhs do not have to wear crash helmets when riding motorcycles, either, as long as they are wearing a turban.
Namaste
What I do not want overlooked here is the notable military tradition of Sikh tradition, and it would be a shame if the United States would miss the opportunity that such proven warriors can and will contribute to America at every level.
In India, they have the turban as uniform attire, it is actually very noble and inspiring, and the Sikh ability is proven to the highest level of leadership, as was shown in the 1971 India - Pakistan war.
Here we see the hero Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, in the green turban, taking the surrender of Lieutenant General Niazi, Commander of the Pakistan Army in the East.
I was disappointed to here a conservative, who frankly has the concern of Islamic jihadees terrorists, not liking the idea because many are so stupid not to understand. But also happy to hear another conservative support the turban and beard specifically because of the strategic advantage of Sikhs in the US military.
If there is to be another great war as many predict, this contribution could turn the tide, make a contribution of difference. As an American, I say we cannot afford to not have in our arsenal the heroic Sikh.
Om Namah Sivaya
What I do not want overlooked here is the notable military tradition of Sikh tradition, and it would be a shame if the United States would miss the opportunity that such proven warriors can and will contribute to America at every level.
In India, they have the turban as uniform attire, it is actually very noble and inspiring, and the Sikh ability is proven to the highest level of leadership, as was shown in the 1971 India - Pakistan war.
Here we see the hero Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, in the green turban, taking the surrender of Lieutenant General Niazi, Commander of the Pakistan Army in the East.
I was disappointed to here a conservative, who frankly has the concern of Islamic jihadees terrorists, not liking the idea because many are so stupid not to understand. But also happy to hear another conservative support the turban and beard specifically because of the strategic advantage of Sikhs in the US military.
If there is to be another great war as many predict, this contribution could turn the tide, make a contribution of difference. As an American, I say we cannot afford to not have in our arsenal the heroic Sikh.
Om Namah Sivaya
... some say "uniform" means the same in form. Of course we need the uniform, but we need to be reasonable and not lose advantages when it stares you in the face. Bearded face or not.
For example, is a black face "the same" as a white face? It would be absurd to interpret uniform in that way.
So uniform can include beard and turban, and it is also a proud uniform of America that will strike fear in the enemy.
Om Namah Sivaya
For example, is a black face "the same" as a white face? It would be absurd to interpret uniform in that way.
So uniform can include beard and turban, and it is also a proud uniform of America that will strike fear in the enemy.
Om Namah Sivaya
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
Every religious Sikh that I have had the pleasure of coming into contact with out in the real world, has been a mixture of Shri Hari Singh Nalwa and Shri Mahatma Guru Gobind Singh-ji.
Completely off topic and not a whole lot to do with your question above, but in my opinion: both black face and white face are equally racist.
For those that have no idea what I am talking about...the above is a compliment. Carry on. Oh, and this is wonderful news! Go Sikhs!
Completely off topic and not a whole lot to do with your question above, but in my opinion: both black face and white face are equally racist.
...मैत्रावरुणिः
I am being misunderstood. Some are arguing against allowing for example the beard on the argument "every soldier must look exactly the same" this saying that is what "uniform" means.
But one face varies from the next.
So taking "uniform" to the extreme is stupid. That was my black face, white face analogy.
I am being misunderstood. Some are arguing against allowing for example the beard on the argument "every soldier must look exactly the same" this saying that is what "uniform" means.
But one face varies from the next.
So taking "uniform" to the extreme is stupid. That was my black face, white face analogy.
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
Even more off-topic, but did you know that a lot of our current American views on how the US Military should be comes from the Ancient Romans? The Romans didn't grow out their hair, neither do we! They also were keen on the idea that each Roman soldier should look similar to one another.
But, don't worry...I didn't misunderstand you.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Beards, like most fashions, come and go. As a practicality during WWI beards were not allowed because the gas masks would sometimes not make a seal against the face due to the facial hair. But an even greater concern is the 'slippery slope' that may come from this decision. Can't you just envision a platoon of Rastafarians?
I'm fine with the turban being allowed. But it will limit their service areas.
Example: They'd never make it as a Navy Seal or many covert activities.
Example: They'd never make it as a Navy Seal or many covert activities.
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
We've had Sikhs, bearded and turbaned, in the British army for 150 years. They played a major role in both world wars and are no doubt part of the reason why Sikhs are well thought of in Britain.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
But kindly note that Sikhs in Indian Forces wear helmets when necessary, in Army and in Air Force. They dispense with 'pagri' (the head-gear) but nobody objects to their keeping long hair or their 'patkas'. That fulfills their religious requirements.
Air Marshall Arjun Singh,
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