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Alpha and Omega

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. Fool

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    in revelation we are told that something is the alpha and the omega and all that is, is this again a reference to the name at exodus 3:14 by the lord in exodus 3:15. that it is intrinsic like the word from john 1:1-4?


    so then the lord of light is something within self? as jesus said you are the light of the world?





     
  2. David T

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    "in revelation"

    Darn couldnt read further the text wont allow it.. It says dont add or subtract to the text in the text. Therefore everything is nonsense when it references to revelation according to revelation!!!!
     
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    The one true God does not change.
     
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    Revelation of John, the original Jewish version
    Apocalypse composition, dating & authorship
    Front page: Daniel and Revelation (with website search function)
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    Note: all emphases are mine.

    See here for the original Jewish version without comments

    Revelation of John, the original Jewish version. Apocalypse composition, dating & authorship
     
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    Yep right ar the end says dont bother interpreting it. Its jungs red book good luck!!!!!
     
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    its a metapsychological treatise about the mind for the living. kind of like the bardo thodol for the dead



    Edgar Cayce on the Book of Revelation


    Cayce Interpretation: What was the final salvation of the bodily, mental, and spiritual forces described within John, now are shown to take place in collective humanity. When humanity recognizes the divinity within them as the controlling force in the world, and turns away from their own selfish pattern of living for self alone, the old pattern disappears and the Christ pattern emerges.
     
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    I believe it is a reference to the cyclic nature of time and that Jesus is at that point that is the beginning and the end but in all truth anywhere on a circle is a beginning and an end. So I view it more as the end of yin and the beginning of yang. Since He controls all things, He is most likely at the end of yang and the beginning of yin also.
     
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    i believe this is not a case of essence any more than Jesus being the first born of all creation. So you could say that God is the beginning of the platypus but He is not a platypus.
     
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    I don't believe interpretation qualifies as adding or subtracting.
     
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    Well i know (i believe i do not believe i am agnostic) is irelevant factually. Please make "i believe the sun not setting today and you then hace something of importance to say. Otherwise please all three fills mentals hospitals and is nonsense.
     
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    Correct! He is the same today as he was yesterday and will be into all eternity. He is the only true constant, in that he has always been in a constant state of evolution..

    He has neither beginning or end, and is all that exists. All thing came into existence by him, through him, and for him. He is the essential divine reality of the universe; the eternal Spirit from which all being originates and to which all must return at the close of each period of Universal activity.

    Our ancient ancestors expressed the belief that our scientists of today are just beginning to come to terms with, and that is, that following each “Big Bang” there comes the “Big Crunch,” when this universe is condensed once again, into the SUPOSSEDLY infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small singularity from which it originated.

    According to the ancient cultures, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time, a living universal being who is all that exists, and in who, all that is, exists. A universe that exists in the two states of seemingly visible matter and invisible energy=anti-matter.

    “Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being to non-being, and again from non-being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all, the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

    The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.

    ‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

    The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth” which is used in the Old Testament as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc. And the ‘Great Day’ in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles of endless rebirths that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle.

    Enoch the righteous, wrote that God created an eighth day also, so that it should be the first after his works, and it is a day eternal with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time is stuck together in one eon, etc, etc, and all who enter into the generation of the Light beings, are able to visit all those worlds that still exist in Space-Time, but not in our time.

    A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it. This is the true resurrection in which all from the previous cycle of universal activity, who still have the judgmental war raging within them, are born again into the endless cycles of physical manifestation, or rebirths.

    He, who is all that exists, is in the constant state of evolution.
     
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