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Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Amanaki, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:07 PM.

  1. Amanaki

    Amanaki sotāpanna

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    In this physical world we live all that exist is 4 elements

    Earth
    Water
    Fire
    Air

    How can this be? If you brake down everything all around us including our self is made up by this four elements. Human body is only made up by four elements.

    This 4 Element i talk about come from the teching of the buddha in Buddhism.

    What is your thought?
     
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    They are not elements
     
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    Actually, there are about 120 elements.
     
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    According to Buddhist teaching they are :) But why do you say they are not elements?
     
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    May it be that the 120 elemenst you talk about ( i do not doubt you ) Can be put in to the 4 elements category?
     
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    You forgot space-time.
     
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    Maybe you need a science class.
     
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  8. Amanaki

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    Are they physical elements?
    All i do is study dhamma and not what someone teach today as science. So i am very aware that many will see things very different them i do in this tread. And i find it ok :)
     
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    I study Buddha dhamma, all i need is in there :)
    But i do not reject science
     
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    The hard and solid parts of our body make up the earth element; the liquid and flowing parts, the water element. Winds that pass up and down our body make up the wind element, and the heat in our body, the fire element. Taken together, they compose what we call a “human being”. However, when the body is broken down into its component parts, only these four elements remain. The Buddha taught that there is no “being” per se, no human, no person, but that ultimately, there are only these four elements
     
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    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    for me, they represent states of matter...
    Earth = Solids
    Water = Liquids
    Fire = Plasma
    Air = Gas

    They are what we experience as reality...along with gravity, electromagnetism, etc....
     
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    A person has six--earth, liquid, wind, fire, space, and consciousness:
    Dhatu-vibhanga Sutta: An Analysis of the Properties
     
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    That is the same as i said in the OP ;) you just use different words then i do :)
     
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    I do not reject what you say in your aswer here :) But if you again take it futher down you end up with the 4 in the way i understand it :) But as said before i am not enlighten yet, so there might be details i do not see yet.
     
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    to me, "things" are analogous to the temporary standing waves seen in rivers, or clouds in the atmosphere...transient and separate only in perspective.
     
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    They are in the classical sense of what the word means. It was since co-opted by modern chemistry to mean something a bit different. I'll get into that in a follow-up post.
     
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    Maybe the Buddha needs a science class.
     
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    I have no doubt in Buddha or the teaching. But i understand you come from a science background, and that is ofcourse very good :) We just walk different paths
     
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    Space-time would most definitely be a physical property, imo. I can't see how it could not be, because you can't have solid-liquid-gas-energy without physical space-time to contain them, imo. (Unless, of course, you are just thinking of the concepts, then you need consciousness to contain the ideal concepts.)
     
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    I do not mean to sound rude or be an A...s here, but does not space time contain the 4 elements i talk about? I may ofcourse be wrong
     
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