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Agree or Disagree? Adam & Eve existed because Jesus mentions them.
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Amechania
Daimona of the Helpless
Without original sin there is no redemption in Christ.
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
Sounds like a matter of circular logic considering the existence of Jesus is doubted by experts. By experts I mean people who are not theologians
What on earth does that have to do with the OP's question?
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
This should already be clear. A question was formed joining them together.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You beat me to the punch.
Amechania
Daimona of the Helpless
You asked what one had to do with the other? I answered. It's not brain surgery.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Please reread the OP because your response really didn't relate to the question asked. I would suggest answering it first and then moving on to a different tangent if you feel it's appropriate. Here's the question from the OP: Agree or Disagree? Adam & Eve existed because Jesus mentions them.
I was kind of debating a Conservative Christian and I told him that I don't believe Adam & Eve existed. He responded by saying Adam & Eve existed because Jesus mentioned them. His theology hinges on the fall of man in the garden so he insists Adam & Eve were real people. He said Genesis should be viewed as historical unless it can be proven otherwise.
I couldn't get anywhere with him so I was looking to get a better argument the next time this situation arises again in the future.
I couldn't get anywhere with him so I was looking to get a better argument the next time this situation arises again in the future.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
That's common. Go to any religion and ask them about their respective religious forefathers. They normally won't deny them.
factseeker88
factseeker88
Before the Garden of Man already existed. so Adam and Eve were not the first.
Genesis 26 (long before the Garden of Eden) And God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: (LET US indicates that their was more than one God.
How do the believers explain that?
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[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO. John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]
Before the Garden of Man already existed. so Adam and Eve were not the first.
Genesis 26 (long before the Garden of Eden) And God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: (LET US indicates that their was more than one God.
How do the believers explain that?
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]factseeker88[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO. John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]
They will say it's a hint of the Trinity. But is a hint a fact? No, but it's good enough for them. I think polytheism was a more common belief among the Israelites than what the writers of several books of the OT lead people to believe.
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
You can also consider the fact that the Baha'i scriptures stipulate the existence of Adam (though not necessarily as the first man ever) but explain that Eve is metaphorical.
Peace,
Bruce
Peace,
Bruce