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Featured against pagans?

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by syo, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. syo

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    Orthodox Christians are against pagans and all other religions, in general. My question is: are the other Abrahamic religions against nonabrahamic religions?

    Orthodox Christians say all other religions are cults and fakes. :shrug:
     
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    I don't think the situation is quite so straightforward, even for Orthodox Christians. What does it mean to be "against" some particular religion? What does that look like, considering the nature of a religion encompasses a wide variety of ideas and practices? It becomes quite the spectrum and probably straight up impossible for any religion to disagree with absolutely everything in any other religious tradition. So it's important to be specific about what someone is "against" within a religion. And does "against" simply mean "disagrees with, but let bygones be bygones" or does it mean "disagrees with and wants to eliminate from planet earth" sort of thing?
     
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  3. syo

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    I'll give you an example. Orthodox Christians refuse to pray with other people who are not Orthodox. They think all Gods of other religions are fakes, and if they pray with an outsider, they will go to hell. They think that people who have a different religion are tricked into joining that religion. They think that only Orthodox Christianity is the sole correct religion.
     
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    Interesting the belief in imaginary entices.
    And everything dies !
    They all become imaginary also !
     
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    Back in the roman times, christians refused the roman gods and the romans killed them, that is why there are so many christian martyrs.
     
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    To clarify, by "Orthodox Christians" do you mean "Orthodox" as in Eastern Orthodox? Or "Orthodox" as in any mainstream Trinitarian Christian (Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant)?
     
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    Presuming you speak accurately - and as a general rule I strongly prefer to let members of a tradition speak for themselves rather than have outsiders speak for them - it's been my general impression that this extreme level of intolerance is rare. Research I've come across has borne that out... exclusivist attitudes like you describe are not in vogue these days. In any case, I don't find such exclusivist nonsense to be worthy of much time or consideration.

    Also, I'm pretty sure Orthodox Christians have prayed with Pagans without even knowing it considering our prayers often don't match up with what they think of as prayer. :D
     
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    The Trinitarian Orthodox. The Orthodox who had the schism with Catholics.
     
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    I think the candle and wish on a birthday cake is actually of pagan origin! Yesterday I was reading an article about the praying thing.
     
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    That is not quite true. Rome was very tolerant of religion, and would willingly include the abrahamic god.

    As you said, Christianity refused that tolerance and denied the Roman gods by insisting their god was the only god.

    Considering Rome, at that time, considered the Emperor to be a deity then Christian denied the Emperor.

    A capital crime.
     
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    Ah okay. I don't think what you're saying is true of all Eastern Orthodox folks.
     
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    Judaism is against pagan religions. But we often include Christianity on that list.
     
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    Nope. The roman emperor (whenever was christian, like Constantine and Theodosius) didn't kill them.
     
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    Paganism predates Christianity, along with the Dharmic traditions. So you have some catching up to do. :p
     
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    There are different claims as to what is Orthodox not only in Christianity, but other religions, and it is sometimes the case that different variations of orthodox believers will not pray, associate, and wage war between the orthodox beliefs.

    In history of humanity the lines between what is and is not pagan gets blurred. In many cases negative accusations of 'pagan' in history is simply against those that believe differently. I personally do like using the word.
     
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    I believe he is referring to Orthodox Christianity, as that's his local form.
     
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    There were many emperors between the beginning of christianity and Constantine. all of whom were considered deities. All of whom christians rejected
     
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    Christianity is a young religion. It's supposed rise a new world. o_O
     
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    That's not entirely true. Pope Benedict XVI and His Holiness Bartholomew, the Ecumenical Patriarch had prayers together. The Orthodox and Catholic Churches recognize each others' sacraments, especially Holy Orders.
     
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    That is true.
     
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