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The right to refuse treatment options does not equate to the right to demand specific treatment.
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The right to refuse treatment options does not equate to the right to demand specific treatment.
If you are in pain, then sure. What’s the issue? If you’re an addict the doctor might not be inclined to give you a scribble. I dunno. Maybe with public health care doctors are just not in the mood to argue with patients lolI want morphine..! Can I go to my doctor and tell him to prescribe it to me? It's my body, and I'm the patient after all..!
That's the wonderful thing about it. You can't just demand a treatment. There has to be a cause for it, and the risks must be weighed against the benefits. Such as with euthanasia. You can't just get it, and that should never change. There should be a process for it, there should be barriers in order to obtain it, and it should be an available option for those who literally only have terrible suffering that will worsen left to look forward to. It is their life, it is their care, it is their treatment, and it should be their choice, not the choice of politicians, not those with a religious agenda, and certainly not the masses who don't know the Hippocratic Oath--as commonly perceived--isn't actually a thing. It should strictly and exclusively be between doctor and patient. Everyone else needs to bugger off, off a cliff if necessary. And a doctor must be willing to set aside their personal emotions and beliefs in order to treat their patients. Extending life just isn't always the best option for many patients, as decided by the patient.I want morphine..! Can I go to my doctor and tell him to prescribe it to me? It's my body, and I'm the patient after all..!
They pretty much are starting to become dictators when it comes to opiates. I can only handle mild opiates, and for all the legit pain I have in my knee I can't even get a refill of tylenol 3 after surgery.If you are in pain, then sure. What’s the issue? If you’re an addict the doctor might not be inclined to give you a scribble. I dunno. Maybe with public health care doctors are just not in the mood to argue with patients lol
If I have a severe back problem and I know for a fact that the only pain killer that helps me specifically is something with morphine rather than whatever else, I can absolutely go to my GP and be like “please give me morphine because of this.” A doctor is there to treat me, not be a dictator. We can absolutely discuss which course is the best action for me to take and obviously I will lean on his/her expertise. But I am not bound to just do whatever my doctor tells me: I can even shop around for a doctor who will prescribe something else, if that is my genuine wish. Just because my father’s doctor advised him to get chemo, doesn’t mean he was obliged to get chemo. He could have just as easily asked to get radiation therapy instead. Like don’t be so afraid of doctors. They’re there to help, after all and do what’s best for you and you absolutely should have a say in that. It is your health, after all.
Of course in a hospital situation, that may differ. Ours is based on prioritising the worst cases. So if I were in a hospital getting treatment, I probably wouldn’t be inclined to discuss things rationally and just accept whatever drug I’m getting.
Then you must be able to justify why that should be, why someone who is better off should actually care about helping those less fortunate, because there does come a time when it is incredibly unlikely it will actually help them as individuals.Sadly, it was not clearly written or mandated. Which is why we have so thoroughly failed at fulfilling them.
Geez. I mean asking for opiates here might cause a background check here. But I remember getting opiates a few years ago without any trouble and I’m still just a young punk kidThey pretty much are starting to become dictators when it comes to opiates. I can only handle mild opiates, and for all the legit pain I have in my knee I can't even get a refill of tylenol 3 after surgery.
Yeah. Me, 30s, four surgeries to my left knee at that point, life long history of chronic knee pain and chronic, life long knee problems, and after the fourth surgery I get about two weeks of tylenol with a splash of codeine and no more.Geez. I mean asking for opiates here might cause a background check here. But I remember getting opiates a few years ago without any trouble and I’m still just a young punk kid
Preaching to the choir: 40, Lumbar arthritis from a previous disc reduction surgery in 2011. I get Tramadol if I'm lucky. Usually, Flexerall and MotrinYeah. Me, 30s, four surgeries to my left knee at that point, life long history of chronic knee pain and chronic, life long knee problems, and after the fourth surgery I get about two weeks of tylenol with a splash of codeine and no more.
What I don't get, I turn down tramadol because I don't want something you're supposed to take every day, and have to refuse anything that is much more than tramadol because I get really sick (nausea at best). And despite that, despite my efforts into keeping my muscles strong as a first and primary resort for pain management, I can't get something that is just a little more extra umph than what I can get OTC for really bad days. So it's extra doses and extra pills of advil for me.Preaching to the choir: 40, Lumbar arthritis from a previous disc reduction surgery in 2011. I get Tramadol if I'm lucky. Usually, Flexerall and Motrin
Every once in a while, I have to go in for a shot of Toredol just to stand up straight. Occasionally they'll give me Cortisone which helps for a week or so.What I don't get, I turn down tramadol because I don't want something you're supposed to take every day, and have to refuse anything that is much more than tramadol because I get really sick (nausea at best). And despite that, despite my efforts into keeping my muscles strong as a first and primary resort for pain management, I can't get something that is just a little more extra umph than what I can get OTC for really bad days.
I want morphine..! Can I go to my doctor and tell him to prescribe it to me? It's my body, and I'm the patient after all..!
Ice only cares about poor immigrants if your rich or can provide a valued service like doctor your fine.
Further, legal immigrants have one thing that makes ICE turn around and leave them alone: a resident alien card.Illegal immigrants. ICE can not touch legal immigrants that follow the law. Besides rich and skilled immigrants are fast tracked in legal immigration as they benefit the nation due to wealth and/or skill sets. Poor immigrants are not as they lack skills sets and wealth to take care of themselves.
So in Canada you have medically defined time to put people down. Glad I'm a US citizen.
Further, legal immigrants have one thing that makes ICE turn around and leave them alone: a resident alien card.
I'm not disagreeing with or misunderstanding you.Yah as they are legal immigrants. What is the problem understanding this? ICE goes after illegal immigrants as they have no legal standing to be in the USA. A legal immigrant has a legal status. This isn't rocket surgery....
I'm not disagreeing with or misunderstanding you.
Whoa!!Yeah. Me, 30s, four surgeries to my left knee at that point, life long history of chronic knee pain and chronic, life long knee problems, and after the fourth surgery I get about two weeks of tylenol with a splash of codeine and no more.
I believe that these cases support my position that there should always be privatized healthcare options.A Canadian bioethicist is proposing that medical and pharmacist schools reject applicants who indicate that they would refuse to provide medical treatment, including abortion and assisted dying, on conscientious grounds:
Medical schools should deny applicants who object to provide abortion, assisted death: bioethicist
My personal opinion: I see quite a bit of merit in Dr. Schuklenk's suggestion.
In some respects, it's a bit heavy-handed. After all, someone who objects to, say, abortion, contraception, and assisted dying could potentially steer themselves to a medical discipline that isn't involved with these services.
On the other hand, though, I think it's useful to send a strong message to med - and pharmacy - students that the most important principle in medicine is that the needs of the patient come first, so anyone who would deny a patient care based on the practitioner's "needs" has no place in the medical profession.
In an environment where there's heavy competition to get into medical schools, only the best students are going to get in. I think it makes sense for the measurement of "best" to include a look at the applicant's ethics, not just their academic performance.
What are your thoughts?