ACT test scores for US students drop to new 30-year low

[We Never Know]

Here's a hypothetical.....

The No Child Left Behind Act penalized schools that didn't show improvement. Maybe instead of actual achieving improvement and pass rate, it was pushing the pen to pass everyone to avoid being penalized thus in the long run actually hurting the students instead of helping them.

And one thing I am surprised I haven't seen anyone bring up... Covid!
Much needed schooling was missed because of covid.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And one thing I am surprised I haven't seen anyone bring up... Covid!
Much needed schooling was missed because of covid.

There is no doubt that covid played a major role in this reduction. Or, and I am saying this just because I am getting old and this makes me feel better, kids are dumber than ever

 

[Kenny]

You should remember that a child who is homeschooled probably have parent(s) that are least reasonably fairly well to well educated, whereas a child walking into a public school may have either well or poorly educated parents. If one wants to homeschool a child, they have that right, but then comparing that child to what comes in the door in a public school is an unfair comparison.

My wife is the product of the Catholic parochial school system, which is quite good here in s.e. Michigan. When it was time to have our kids start school, we had a decision to make, and even she said going to public school would be our best choice as we live, and I taught, in a good district. All three of our kids went to college with our oldest being a college professor, our middle child being a nurse who works for Hospice and co-owns an insurance agency, and our youngest owning his own construction company. Public school didn't seem to hurt them one iota.

There's also a financial reality that hurts public schools in particular, but I'll not get into that now.

But it is a new generation… I’m not sure we can compare then and now.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The conservative persecution complex is something to behold. Campuses have Young Republican clubs, conservative speakers, conservatives fraternities, and conservative professors, and conservative students. They all exist.

Some conservatives, however, are beyond the pale of human decency. Milo Yannoupoulis? He made the college circuit. Milo Yiannopoulos - Wikipedia

Same could be said for TDS in the same vein.

 

[Orbit]

Same could be said for TDS in the same vein.

What's TDS?

 

[Twilight Hue]

What's TDS?

Really now? Really????

Ok....

Trump derangement syndrome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Orbit]

Really now? Really????

Ok....

Trump derangement syndrome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What does that have to do with anything?

Hard to say. He did not even specify who had it. The conservatives or the liberals. There are two variants. TDS was more of a liberal thing when Trump first got elected. It was at that time was seemed to be an over reaction to him. But as time went on we found out that those people were not that far off and the right wing TDS kicked in. That is still going strong.

 

[metis]

But it is a new generation… I’m not sure we can compare then and now.

I frankly don't see how that would make a difference.

 

[Kenny]

The conservative persecution complex is something to behold. Campuses have Young Republican clubs, conservative speakers, conservatives fraternities, and conservative professors, and conservative students. They all exist.

Some conservatives, however, are beyond the pale of human decency. Milo Yannoupoulis? He made the college circuit. Milo Yiannopoulos - Wikipedia

I don’t think that explains or validates “violence”.. Conservatives on campus, however small, are attacked violently

Conservative activist assaulted at UC-Berkeley campus during recruitment drive

University of California police is asking for the public’s help in tracking down a man who allegedly assaulted the member of a conservative group, Turning Point USA, who was at a table Tuesday afternoon filled with recruitment materials.

www.foxnews.com

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[metis]

I do think that TDS should apply to all the current Trump supporters as how could any intelligent and caring person still support this neo-fascist MAGA-Maniac?

 

[metis]

I don’t think that explains or validates “violence”.. Conservatives on campus, however small, are attacked violently

Conservative activist assaulted at UC-Berkeley campus during recruitment drive

University of California police is asking for the public’s help in tracking down a man who allegedly assaulted the member of a conservative group, Turning Point USA, who was at a table Tuesday afternoon filled with recruitment materials.

www.foxnews.com

MSN

www.msn.com

It's important not to make the exceptions the rule. However, free speech and non-violence should always be used, imo.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's important not to make the exceptions the rule. However, free speech and non-violence should always be used, imo.

Yes, that would be like condemning all Christianity for the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church.

 

[We Never Know]

I do think that TDS should apply to all the current Trump supporters as how could any intelligent and caring person still support this neo-fascist MAGA-Maniac?

What a huge wide net you throw.

Some that voted for Trump or support Trump don't even like him but he is a republican and they support the party.
Same as some here saying they would never vote republican. Democrat no matter what.

I've said it before and I will say it again, it seems people vote more for 'the party' than the person, especially now days and it has been that way for a while.

 

[metis]

Some that voted for Trump or support Trump don't even like him but he is a republican and they support the party.

It's a shame that these "some" put party over honesty, compassion, and our country.

Same as some here saying they would never vote republican.

I have, but today's Pub Party has just gone bonkers. Hopefully it will someday be a respectable party again-- and I mean it because we need an alternative to one party leadership. Frankly, I prefer the parliamentary system for this reason.

I've said it before and I will say it again, it seems people vote more for 'the party' than the person, especially now days and it has been that way for a while.

Is this what you're doing? I'm getting mixed messages from you on this.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What does that have to do with anything?

What?

I would assume it has everything to do with the question you just asked.

Do you even remember your own postings?

 

[Orbit]

What?

I would assume it has everything to do with the question you just asked.

Do you even remember your own postings?

So important that you posted it twice.
No. maybe I'm dumb but I don't see the connection between a concept that seems to have something to do with people criticizing those who rightly point out problems with Trump and the subject at hand.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So important that you posted it twice.
No. maybe I'm dumb but I don't see the connection between a concept that seems to have something to do with people criticizing those who rightly point out problems with Trump and the subject at hand.

It was posted twice because of the lag on the site here as I edited it.

You're the one who asked what TDS was, and I responded and then you go crazy afterwards about it.

Have a good day.

 

[We Never Know]

It's a shame that these "some" put party over honesty, compassion, and our country.


I have, but today's Pub Party has just gone bonkers. Hopefully it will someday be a respectable party again-- and I mean it because we need an alternative to one party leadership. Frankly, I prefer the parliamentary system for this reason.


Is this what you're doing? I'm getting mixed messages from you on this.

I don't like either party, but if there is a good choice, no matter the party, I will vote for them. Therefore I didn't vote the last two elections. There were only two bad choices each time. I try to avoid making bad choices.

 

[metis]

I don't like either party, but if there is a good choice, no matter the party, I will vote for them. Therefore I didn't vote the last two elections. There were only two bad choices each time. I try to avoid making bad choices.

I certainly can't argue with that!