According to the UN, migration should be a human right

[icehorse]

The UN Global Compact for Migration asserts that migration should be a human right. This seems like a terrifying idea.

A/CONF.231/3 - E

Thanks to @Notanumber for letting me know of this UN initiative.

 

[Rival]

I want to know what they think this would achieve.

 

[Revoltingest]

The UN Global Compact for Migration asserts that migration should be a human right. This seems like a terrifying idea.

A/CONF.231/3 - E

Thanks to @Notanumber for letting me know of this UN initiative.

That's some dense reading for those of us who are lazy.
Is there a summary?

 

[Estro Felino]

I want to know what they think this would achieve.

It's all written here

 

[Rival]

What a stupid idea. Populations decline all the time. It's well known that richer people have fewer children. There's no need to replace us. How heinous.

 

[icehorse]

That's some dense reading for those of us who are lazy.
Is there a summary?

Agreed on the dense (and I'd say obfuscatory), nature of the reading.

My question boils down to this: Do you think migration should be a human right?

 

[Revoltingest]

Agreed on the dense (and I'd say obfuscatory), nature of the reading.

My question boils down to this: Do you think migration should be a human right?

No.
It's a privilege which a country may grant to applicants.

We wouldn't want to see UN troops escorting immigrants to Sentinel Island, eh.

 

[Shad]

I want to know what they think this would achieve.

Praise from virtue signalling.

 

[Shad]

No.
It's a privilege which a country may grant to applicants.

We wouldn't want to see UN troops escorting immigrants to Sentinel Island, eh.

Amusing double-standard isn't it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Amusing double-standard isn't it.

Rather than a double standard, I suspect a proffered policy which
hasn't been given adequate consideration of possible consequences.

 

[LuisDantas]

What authority, if any, does such a document have?

How and by whom would such authority be enforced?

Lots of rights "should" exist. Reality does not care.



That said, I agree in principle. Immigration should indeed be a human right.

But I do not think most people think of countries (or, for that matter, rights) as nearly as insubstantial entities as I personally do.

 

[Shad]

Rather than a double standard, I suspect a proffered policy which
hasn't been given adequate consideration of possible consequences.

Standard UN practice

 

[LuisDantas]

Standard UN practice

Well, that is probably right.

But I don't think they have much of a choice.

 

[Shad]

What authority, if any, does such a document have?

Zero unless a nation signs up. Then it becomes law

How and by whom would such authority be enforced?

Internal thus national courts

Lots of rights "should" exist. Reality does not care.

This right in question is no right but an entitlement

 

[Revoltingest]

Standard UN practice

Standard for government in general.

 

[Shad]

Well, that is probably right.

But I don't think they have much of a choice.

They could drop the Compact. Although if they did they couldn't be praised.

 

[LuisDantas]

Somehow I just don't believe that even a signatary country would feel duty-bound to use its own military to ensure that immigrants would have access to its own borders.

This sounds (to me) very much a statement of intentions, of ideals which attempts to present itself as far too serious a document for anyone's good.

As statements go, it looks fairly good to me. But I have to wonder whether anyone even expects it to be taken seriously.

 

[LuisDantas]

They could drop the Compact. Although if they did they couldn't be praised.

I don't see an upside for dropping it, to be fair.

 

[Shad]

Standard for government in general.

The UN seems to strive to be the worst example.

 

[Revoltingest]

The UN seems to strive to be the worst example.

Well, it does have input from the worst offenders.