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Well a Christian is satan to the Satanists.
Where do you think fallen angels come from?
Infinitum
Possessed Bookworm
Personally I view patience as one of the LHP virtues. It's pretty obvious that we'll lever agree with each other completely, but the language of that disagreement has in my experience became a lot sharper over the past year or so. As a group we're very concerned about "posers", or whatever else we call those who call themselves LHP but who (in our perception) aren't. Sure people like these can be a real issue, but just as often it can turn into a heated dispute between two people who are both very serious about their own practice. I don't (usually) even care about who's right or wrong, but I do care about what it does to the otherwise perhaps enlightening conversations. The best learning experiences I've had about my own path has been when I've been having in-depth discussions with someone who doesn't agree with me.
So from my perspective the main question is what benefits me the most. I'd imagine most of you agree that threads derailing into yes-no-battles benefits no one. My suggestion is we start focusing on our own things instead of spending so much effort on what others believe. (And no, this does not mean I'm telling you to ignore people who come here telling that Satanism is the literal worship of the Christian Devil or similar major issues. You get the idea.)
So from my perspective the main question is what benefits me the most. I'd imagine most of you agree that threads derailing into yes-no-battles benefits no one. My suggestion is we start focusing on our own things instead of spending so much effort on what others believe. (And no, this does not mean I'm telling you to ignore people who come here telling that Satanism is the literal worship of the Christian Devil or similar major issues. You get the idea.)
Debates are pretty much standard fair here -- it's just impossible to avoid them. I think the admins have decided that unless the regulars have a problem they don't have one. =)
I haven't got any problem with differing beliefs just their preaching here (for people whom aren't of LHP paths). They have forums to do that with. I'm happy to debate any subject with an informative direction. There is debating to find the truth and debating to troll people. I'm all good with the first case. I am merely thankful that I haven't got banned in all this time. I certainly know how to fire up the coals... I try to quench that with the depth of content, but I have failed at least once. =)
People over-think the whole LHP thing. Are you on it? Are you going to be on it? Do you need to be on it? I hate to put age as a factor, but it remains true that until you get a few grey curlies you're probably still in the investigative stage of all this. I've had my own ups and downs with this sometimes taking years off of it and then coming back. I tend to the garden as needed -- otherwise I just wing it. =) I hit plateaus whether nothing seems to change for years, and then an 'a-ha' moment arises and great progress is made.
All of these definitions are largely useless if they cannot be manifested into a usable tool set. There are some silly things to argue about -- like Setians vs Luciferians vs Theistic Satanism. Other than some flavor and personal preference there is much more similar between them than different. Most of the practices are the same... etc. I think the LHP spends far too much time quibbling over the label when it's a minor thing. Do Lutheran's and Catholics believe in the same god? Esh, if anything... that is the worst part of the LHP community -- getting distracted over the shiny bits.
I haven't got any problem with differing beliefs just their preaching here (for people whom aren't of LHP paths). They have forums to do that with. I'm happy to debate any subject with an informative direction. There is debating to find the truth and debating to troll people. I'm all good with the first case. I am merely thankful that I haven't got banned in all this time. I certainly know how to fire up the coals... I try to quench that with the depth of content, but I have failed at least once. =)
People over-think the whole LHP thing. Are you on it? Are you going to be on it? Do you need to be on it? I hate to put age as a factor, but it remains true that until you get a few grey curlies you're probably still in the investigative stage of all this. I've had my own ups and downs with this sometimes taking years off of it and then coming back. I tend to the garden as needed -- otherwise I just wing it. =) I hit plateaus whether nothing seems to change for years, and then an 'a-ha' moment arises and great progress is made.
All of these definitions are largely useless if they cannot be manifested into a usable tool set. There are some silly things to argue about -- like Setians vs Luciferians vs Theistic Satanism. Other than some flavor and personal preference there is much more similar between them than different. Most of the practices are the same... etc. I think the LHP spends far too much time quibbling over the label when it's a minor thing. Do Lutheran's and Catholics believe in the same god? Esh, if anything... that is the worst part of the LHP community -- getting distracted over the shiny bits.
Infinitum
Possessed Bookworm
I just love your wording here. Shiny bits. :hearts:
Well, dang...I just had to change me title.
Heh. Deviled ham.
Mmmmmmmmmmmm......
RHP types should note how Beelzebub is family friendly.
RHP types should note how Beelzebub is family friendly.
Hail to you dark lord of bacon. You wear your title well.
Why do you think that is so. like what is the cause./
I would nominally agree with your statements
isn't this a bit dogmatic or at least biased.I'm curious what "dogma" you've seen, St. Frank. Setians haven't come around for a while
In regards to posers, thats my question. How are we deciding who is who? IWhy? That being said I know I am guilty of this too. Just a few weeks ago if I remember correctly. Their seems to be no ryhme or reason.
I have noticed we get to bogged down with meaningless crap. blah blh blah kind of ****. Itsn just words. its just symbols. They are not truth, especially her in general section of the DIR> I think we need a redirection for out conversations. Like Mindmaster said distracted by the shiny bits.
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Infinitum
Possessed Bookworm
I'll take the risk of sounding horribly pessimistic and get something said here. It's good that we talk about the issue and agree that the current situation is no good, but that's just that - talk. I think we've covered the most common issues in the thread and there are surely some good suggestions on how to fix it. But the truth is we've talked about this before and nothing has changed so far. Being the herd of cats we are we all need to individually think of something we're going to do to improve our own satisfaction with the DIR or nothing is going to happen despite all the talk.
Calling for action is not pessimistic nor is being realistic. I have an idea on what I can do. Do you?
Infinitum
Possessed Bookworm
I was planning on trying to bring my comment in somewhat more to the DIR to provide some diversity to the posters. I also had some idea about an info sticky here at some point, but for the moment I've forgotten what my plan was exactly.
How so?
Where else do you see people so radically individual and with such drastically different views sharing ideas?
Everyday life? I see your point. Personally I see similarities before differences. It seems we get lost in the blah blah blah