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AC Valhalla. A Viking game in Assassins clothing

Discussion in 'Games' started by SomeRandom, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. SomeRandom

    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise

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    Okay, so I caved and bought the most recent Assassins Creed Game, Valhalla.
    I don’t know if it’s an AC game as much as a Viking game and in a world bereft of such a feature, I think I’ll take what I can get.

    What are your thoughts on the game? On the franchise? Of Ubisoft in general even?
    I enjoyed the “Ezio Trilogy.” Black Flag was fun but the series has long since deviated from its assassin roots, for better or worse
    Imo. Still yet to play Odyssey though, weird since I’m an avid fan of Greco-Roman myth. I will though
     
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    You know, I haven't really played many of the assassin's creed games. I like them well enough, but meh... Maybe I'd enjoy this one more.

    After I go and get myself a nice computer set up, I'll go ahead and get it. I definitely am excited to get cyberpunk, though!
     
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  3. Quintessence

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    Well, attempting to set aside the fact that Ubisoft is a company that has shielded rapists, misogynists, and abusers for years and enjoyed covering it up until enough women spoke out that they couldn't just pretend that wasn't going on anymore? It sure makes me glad I've gotten most of their games for free or used, which means that company didn't get a dime from me.

    I've only played the series up through Origins and the titles have been hit and miss. As the more of the nasty history of the company has come out, the somewhat boring and stale nature of the series makes sense and is symptomatic of that, unfortunately. Still, some highlights include the ship combat from Black Flag, which should just be an entire darned game by itself. The Discover Tour in Origins was worth purchasing the game in of itself, and frankly I'd play a ton of games of historical, non-combat, interactive tours of various historical eras. It's a genre that as far as I know doesn't exist, and really, really should.
     
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  4. Saint Frankenstein

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    I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition. I love it. I loved Odyssey, too. Beautiful huge worlds that truly make you feel immersed in them. I love the new dismemberment effects. :D
     
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  5. SomeRandom

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    Bruh that opening tho! Brutal. I’m in love lol
     
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  6. Nimos

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    Haven't tried Valhalla yet (Waiting for Cyberpunk :D)



    I tried Odyssey, that was quite nice I think, running around looking at all the ancient buildings, fighting the mythical creatures and speaking to the famous people from that time as well. Very well made, haven't tried any of the older AC games.

    I heard the new one should be even longer than Odyssey and the combat seems a bit to easy and with less focus on stealth and more just hack and slash. But might try it someday, but again CYBERPUNK!! first :D
     
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    Actually, they added a lot of the stealth elements back. It has more stealth elements than Odyssey did.
     
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    Not really gaming, as I'd think of it, but there are some pretty cool options for this sort of thing, these days, particularly in the VR space.
    Eg. Home - LithodomosVR

    They focus more on reconstructions for commercial purposes I think. So, when visiting Pompeii, for example, you can also use a device to look at the ruins more as they would have been, back in the day, etc.

    On a simpler level, even Youtube VR might be worth a look. Loads of content of vastly differing quality, but you'd find some stuff of interest, I think.
    And it's got a very cheap entry point in terms of cost.
     
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    I'll probably get this once I'm allowed to unwrap my PS5 (Christmas present) but for now I've been playing Expeditions : Viking on Steam.
    Depends on the style you like, since it's slow-paced, and uses turn-based combat (with small squads).

    But it seems pretty good in terms of accuracy and feel. Heck, game company is Danish, so they should have SOME clue.

    Expeditions: Viking for PC Reviews - Metacritic

    Incidentally, there is at least one other game in the series (Expeditions : Conquistador) for any interested, and I think they're making another one, although I can't remember what time period or focus.
     
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  10. Twilight Hue

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    Thats my thought although I'll probably wait until a few weeks after launch to see if it's actually worth the price or wait until the price drop.

    I'm conditioned to not take in the hype anymore with modern game developers and publishers.

    No sale if it contains 'prize mechanics' and/or ridiculous microtransactions. Dlc is fine if it expands gameplay in terms of expansions like classic games did in the past.
     
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    From what little I played, the gameplay itself was pretty good.

    Although it bothers me how much a supposed historical game gets so much history wrong. From simple things like the armor and tattoos being way off for the sake of rule of cool, warhammers weren't a thing yet in that time period, vikings didn't have castle seige technology because there weren't castles yet, etc. But those are minor quibbles.
    Perhaps my biggest disappointment with the game is that it mostly takes place in jolly old England again, when it could have been an opportunity to explore Scandinavia.

    I'll still play the game. But it makes me want to read a book. Remember that most vikings looked more like this: axeman-1.jpg
    Leather and lots of metal armor were expensive and impractical for a sea faring group, as it would be quickly damaged by the elements and be a real hindrance to swimming if they fell overboard. Cloth armor and axes was the way to go back then.

    Anyway, not saying video games HAVE to be historically accurate or anything hut Black Flag and Odyssey took a lot more care in the accuracy department. And that was really cool to me.
     
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  12. SomeRandom

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    This is why I no longer play the series with my friend who happens to be a history teacher lmao!!
    That said I enjoy (Blue’s) Overly Sarcastic Production’s play through of the series on YouTube because he’s a gamer and a history nerd. So it’s fun to watch him nitpick it. Maybe because I’m not the one trying to play it lol.

    I agree with your disappointment of its setting. I was so excited to explore Scandinavia/Norway, hunt in the harsh winter and scale the Rocky mountains. Only the opening few missions gave me that. Admittedly I rushed it a bit wanting to quench my “battle lust” early on. So that’s on me a smidge.
     
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    Yeah i can understand that, there have been a lot of "scummy" releases, however CD Project Red is not one of them. Cyberpunk is going to have DLCs as the Witcher 3 had, which were really impressive releases and doesn't just expand on the gameplay they are massive expansions, with completely new storylines.



    Both expansions, including the main game the Witcher 3 have a rating of 9+/10, so personally i'm not worried.

    If you haven't tried it and you like these open world games, it is worth a try, even though it is from 2015 the graphics is really good to be honest :D
     
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    The Witcher while a good game was not entirely honest with the open world aspect. You were forced to travel sandbox to sandbox which proved to be a bit of a letdown in that regard.

    For me, open world, are games like Skyrim, Just Cause, No man's Sky, or Arma where you have kilometers of terrain to traverse without requiring or employing fast travel.

    Things like limited travel with some exceptions are immersion breaking.
     
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    Expeditions : Viking is more accurate. It's set in Scandinavia initially, and leather and fur are about as armoury as it gets.
    Axes and Dane-axes are in great supply..
    Horned helms and warhammers not.
     
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    Besides having to travel from "island" to "island", which each are huge, you don't have to fast travel anywhere. You can choose to run, ride or sail for most things. And you can do whatever you want, to me that seems pretty much like Skyrim, except you having more areas to explore and more options in how you want to do it.
     
  17. SomeRandom

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    Ahh Skyrim. I feel like I know this game franchise purely from the gaming community itself. I think I played one of the early ones in high school. But not for very long, since my memories of it are vague (but positive.)
    *ponders thread possibility for beloved childhood games*
    I think the trauma of the Dark Souls franchise has left me slightly weary of RPGs with a fantastical ye olde England vibe, though :D
     
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