absolutely ideal believer's riches

[ChristineM]

It is Bible quote, I am not saint. I am sinner, I do not follow Bible verse.

Convenient eh!

So you are happy not to follow the bible but bad mouth those who don't follow the bible. I smell huge amounts of hypocrisy here

 

[Nakosis]

PROOF FOR GOD

The absolutely ideal believer is richer than ideal disbeliever in what aspect?

Belief in God.

How does human become an "Ideal disbeliever"?
He sells all and gives to poor.
"Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor" Mark 10:21 NIV.
Ideal disbeliever loves all holy things in
the world: Churches, respects belief in God, and so on. He loves helping people.
His only flaw, in God's view, is disbelief.

Lack of belief is disadvantage: it is lack of something.
Militant Atheist replied: "So is lack lack of syphilis a disadvantage?"
Faith is not harmful. There are perfectly well and rich people, who are believers.

Sure, faith can be helpful for those that need it.
Not everyone needs it.
So I suppose I lack a need that others have.

 

[questfortruth]

Convenient eh!

So you are happy not to follow the bible but bad mouth those who don't follow the bible. I smell huge amounts of hypocrisy here

Unlike other confessions of Christianity, which members are considered always holy and saint, my Eastern Orthodox Church is the Church of repenting sinners.

 

[KWED]

It is disadvantage. It is lack of something.

A lack of psychotic delusion is an advantage.
Logic 101.

 

[KWED]

Faith is not harmful.

Depends. There are people whose faith has led the to harm themselves or others.

 

[ChristineM]

Unlike other confessions of Christianity, which members are considered always holy and saint, my Eastern Orthodox Church is the Church of repenting sinners.

Cool. Imposed guiltnas well. So rich

 

[questfortruth]

Depends. There are people whose faith has led the to harm themselves or others.

Faith is not harmful. With this, I am considering the IDEAL good believer in the world. Perhaps his name is Bob. My idea is this: the ideal good and very kind and lovely disbeliever John is not better than Bob. Because John lacks something, the perfect and complete Bob has- belief.
In other words: if the perfect man/woman exists, he/she cannot be faith-less.

 

[Tiberius]

Faith is not harmful.

Faith can be very harmful.
Jehovah's Witness Kid Dies After Refusing Medical Treatment

 

[questfortruth]

Faith can be very harmful.

I am not talking about pseudo-good theists. I am considering the IDEAL good believer named Bob or Putin or Trump.

 

[KWED]

Faith is not harmful. With this, I am considering the IDEAL good believer in the world. Perhaps his name is Bob. My idea is this: the ideal good and very kind and lovely disbeliever John is not better than Bob. Because John lacks something, the perfect and complete Bob has- belief.
In other words: if the perfect man/woman exists, he/she cannot be faith-less.

No idea what you are trying to say here. Were you arguing that faith cannot be harmful, or was it just a No True Scotsman cop-out?

 

[Tiberius]

I am not talking about pseudo-good theists. I am considering the IDEAL good believer named Bob or Putin or Trump.

Sounds like this is becoming a No True Scotsman thing...

 

[Sheldon]

Faith is not harmful. With this, I am considering the IDEAL good believer in the world. Perhaps his name is Bob. My idea is this: the ideal good and very kind and lovely disbeliever John is not better than Bob. Because John lacks something, the perfect and complete Bob has- belief.
In other words: if the perfect man/woman exists, he/she cannot be faith-less.

Good grief that's biased guff, and it's a no true Scotsman fallacy to boot. It'd help if you abandoned the spurious notion that one species of evolved mammalian apes could be described as perfect.