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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by questfortruth, Apr 12, 2022.

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    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    Faith is not harmful. With this, I am considering the IDEAL good believer in the world. Perhaps his name is Bob. My idea is this: the ideal good and very kind and lovely disbeliever John is not better than Bob. Because John lacks something, the perfect and complete Bob has- belief.
    In other words: if the perfect man/woman exists, he/she cannot be faith-less.

    PROOF FOR GOD

    The absolutely ideal believer is richer than ideal disbeliever in what aspect?

    Belief in God.

    How does human become an "Ideal disbeliever"?
    He sells all and gives to poor.
    "Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor" Mark 10:21 NIV.
    Ideal disbeliever loves all holy things in
    the world: Churches, respects belief in God, and so on. He loves helping people.
    His only flaw, in God's view, is disbelief.

    Lack of belief is disadvantage: it is lack of something.
    Militant Atheist replied: "So is lack lack of syphilis a disadvantage?"
    Faith is not harmful. There are perfectly well and rich people, who are believers.

     
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    How do I become an "Ideal disbeliever" - it sounds like something I should aspire to reach
     
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    The absolutely ideal unbeliever is richer than ideal believer in what aspect?

    Disbelief in a myth called god
     
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    It is disadvantage. It is lack of something.
     
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    Is it a lack of something when they don't believe that "this something exists"?

    Maybe there is a reason why they don't believe.
     
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    Bingo.

    Evidence
     
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    Lack of zits is a disadvantage. :rolleyes:
     
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    Are you implying that a fictional character doesn't believe in God, but is still wealthy? I'm not following you here. Which, I must admit, not unusual.

    What do you think that "wealth" you imply means? Does a person imbued with such wealth continually worry about the words of those that do not have it? To me that would appear to imply the person does not have the wealth they claim. What are your thoughts on that?
     
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    The zit was the basis for an entire movie scene, so even those teenage blemishes have some advantage.
     
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    So is lack lack of syphilis a disadvantage?
     
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    Faith is not harmful. There are perfectly well and rich people, who are believers.
     
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    Lack of belief is disadvantage: it is lack of something.
    Militant Atheist replied: "So is lack lack of syphilis a disadvantage?"
    Faith is not harmful. There are perfectly well and rich people, who are believers.
     
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    Lack of faith.
     
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    How does human become an "Ideal disbeliever"?
    He sells all and gives to poor. Ideal disbeliever loves all holy things in
    the world: Churches, respects belief in God, and so on. He loves helping people.
    His only flaw, in God's view, is disbelief.
     
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    So greed is no longer as vice? Where is that in the Bible?
     
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    Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor
    Mark 10:21 NIV
     
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    Looks like you still have some sort of device that you are posting with here on RF. So I take it you reject Jesus' command.
     
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    It is Bible quote, I am not saint. I am sinner, I do not follow Bible verse.
     
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    So
    So you believe in not following the Bible when it’s inconvenient. Awesome. We agree.
     
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    Faith can be very harmful, it certainly wasn't poor non believers who flew plains into the twin towers.
     
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