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a world without religion
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Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Hmm, considering supernatural entities exist among every group (I don't separate gods and spirits), if there was a world where humans had never thought of gods, then we wouldn't be human as we know it today, as it appears built into us on a societal, evolutionary level.
So, not a human world, I guess?
If it was the modern world and the belief in supernatural entities had away? Something else will take its place. Consumerism, sports, nationalism, politics, sex, drugs, power, greed...
Depends.
So, not a human world, I guess?
If it was the modern world and the belief in supernatural entities had away? Something else will take its place. Consumerism, sports, nationalism, politics, sex, drugs, power, greed...
Depends.
I am certain John Lennon has since changed his opinion on all of that.
Simple. It would be a world without humans.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hi scanz...!
A world which still has humans in it?
Look out for the increased numbers of psychopaths!
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
Really? I recently needed the statistics, and after collating them I found just about 10% of the world's population do not practice a religion.
Of course religion has caused a lot of evils, but that's basically down to three related faiths: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Irreligion has done it's bit for evil too: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.
I would say a world without religion could be better, but it remains highly debatable. If we accept there is no god, that means all the evil in the world is the fault of either man or nature. Science and technology can advance knowledge of the natural world help solve many of our natural evils, but there remains great uncertainty on the extent to which science can provide answers to moral questions which can be established as objectively truth, without resorting to faith in religious revelation or philosophical introspection.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Yeah, the part about creating everything isn't that big of a deal other than to establish his power. But a world with a religions would be a very difficult one. People need a place to go for reassurance and comfort, and religions offer this up in spades. It helps lift their burdens, enabling them to function without falling apart. In turn, making them more easy to deal with.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Dunno about it being better or worse, but it would become a more practical place.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
John Lennon is dead, there's no evidence of an afterlife and the dead can't change opinions.
If he went to purgatory his opinion changed. Filled with gratitude and glad to be purified of his sins.
We disagree on your point we cannot know anything about the afterlife. Much has been revealed by the divine and other ways from beyond.
Unification
Well-Known Member
Have you ever been consciously aware of being dead?
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
There is no purgatory. There is no heaven. There is no hell. John Lennon died and is rotting in the ground (assuming he was buried, I have no idea and didn't feel like looking), the same as everyone else. There is no evidence that any afterlife exists in any way, shape or form. Just because it makes you feel good to think it exists is not evidence that it actually exists. Only a fool believes things for which there is no evidence, rational people accept ideas when, and only when, they are supported by objective and demonstrable proof.
You'd rather just make something up. That's ridiculous.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
Nope, neither have you. Neither has anyone else. When you're dead, you're dead.
Tiapan
Grumpy Old Man
Humans are Humans , religion is a virtual consequence of sentience, curiosity and social cohesion as it only exists as a thought. This has occurred because it short circuited infinite probability loops when analyzing complex problems, as part of an adaptive evolutionary process. As information, communication and accessibility to information is increasing exponentially, the answers to the "Important" questions are gradually answered with logic replacing faith with fact. Humans are also endowed with emotion which complicates the ideation of the manifestation of those things "felt through the heart". So many humans will continue to believe in supernatural because it feels good.
Unification
Well-Known Member
God loves you.
Unification
Well-Known Member
God loves you too.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
And the Invisible Pink Unicorn loves you. We can both throw worthless platitudes back and forth, I guess.