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Eisegesis is the art/fallacy of reading into scripture what you want to hear. In this case you've managed to strain credulity to a breaking point while demonstrating a ready willingness to cherry-pick Amos without regard to Amos. You might wish to review Amos 1:1 (also Zech. 14:5). On what evidence do you maintain that your Christ-connection is anything other than wishful delusion? Specifically, on what basis do you maintain that your theory is preferable to the explanation offered by bible.orgbeckysoup61 said:Amos was a prophet in the Old Testament, and he forsaw the lose of the preisthood after Christ's death.
"...a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord." (Amost 8:11)
Jayhawker Soule said:Eisegesis is the art/fallacy of reading into scripture what you want to hear. In this case you've managed to strain credulity to a breaking point while demonstrating a ready willingness to cherry-pick Amos without regard to Amos.
Jayhawker said:You might wish to review Amos 1:1 (also Zech. 14:5).
Jayhawker said:On what evidence do you maintain that your Christ-connection is anything other than wishful delusion? Specifically, on what basis do you maintain that your theory is preferable to the explanation offered by bible.org
It could just as easily refer to a time 2,000 years from now after a nuclear war when all books have been burnt for fuel.beckysoup61 said:Amos was a prophet in the Old Testament, and he forsaw the lose of the preisthood after Christ's death.
"...a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord." (Amost 8:11)
I'll take that as begrudging agreement.Polaris said:I'll admit that its not clear whether the famine (i.e. apostasy) refers to a post-Christ apostasy or a pre-Christ apostasy, but ...
My question - unanswered - was an honest one and, I believe, fully pertinent. In my opinion, to suggest that an Amos polemic against 8th century BCE greed, injustice, and idolatry is a prophesy of a 1st century CE messiah strains credulity.beckysoup61 said:Well, I for one do not see it as a delusion, and appreciate it if you would not call what I believe as delusions.
Becky,beckysoup61 said:Amos was a prophet in the Old Testament, and he forsaw the lose of the preisthood after Christ's death.
"...a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord." (Amost 8:11)
You might wish to ask yourself why you wish to so insulate your position. That said, the thread could have been posted in the Christianity forum as "Christians: A Scripture for the Apostasy".beckysoup61 said:This wasn't menat to be confertational, and maybe I should have stuck in the Smae Faith Debates only. I was more actually hoping the Catholics would get involved.
Jayhawker Soule said:You might wish to ask yourself why you wish to so insulate your position. That said, the thread could have been posted in the Christianity forum as "Christians: A Scripture for the Apostasy".