Nicholas
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The section of US code seems to fit the rioting going on. A worthy project for AG Barr!
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
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The section of US code seems to fit the rioting going on. A worthy project for AG Barr!
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
What preposterous nonsense. There is no evidence that any of the rioting was aimed at "overthrow" of the US government, knowingly, wilfully or not. It was a protest aimed at stopping the police killing black citizens.The section of US code seems to fit the rioting going on. A worthy project for AG Barr!
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Good point. It's usually the far right -- "very fine people" all -- that are most rabidly anti government.What preposterous nonsense. There is no evidence that any of the rioting was aimed at "overthrow" of the US government, knowingly, wilfully or not. It was a protest aimed at stopping the police killing black citizens.
Now....the invasion - by gunmen in battle fatigues - of the Michigan state assembly building might have been, arguably. But for some reason you are not concerned about that.
Quite.For those too busy, intuitive or sage-like to read the Code text, here it is:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
This code seems to be a product of the Red Scare, note the date. Scared people tend to get repressive, if not tyrannical.For those too busy, intuitive or sage-like to read the Code text, here it is:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
For those too busy, intuitive or sage-like to read the Code text, here it is:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
What evidence is there that the objective of the riots is to overthrow any government? My understanding is the riots express anger about police methods.The section of US code seems to fit the rioting going on. A worthy project for AG Barr!
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
If such chaos and anarchy has not yet devolved into sedition, this part of the code is inapplicable.I wrote nothing about BLM. Chaos & anarchy can devolve into seditious actions, so maybe using the Code will prevent that.
You cannot lock a man up because you think he might commit a crime.