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Yes I'd move.

You mean religion being above predatory law... It is still the law.

 

I do agree with you but we do not have sovereignty over those countries that consider abuse and torture part of their legal system. My solution is get out of there.

 

Everyone seems.to.be reading me wrongly. I am strongly against persecution for any reason but we have no sovereignty over the counties involved. We cannot change there laws even if we don't agree with them. So the best option is to resettle in a country with more humanity.

 

Happy Birthday Koldo. Hope you have many more and live long and prosper.

 

Thank you!

 

Yes very true. A nations laws must be adhered to religion or no religion.

How can any religion not be mistrusted or even banned if these sorts of things are going on? Now Australia and USA have not banned them but how do we know other bans are not for breaking these laws? Once these things are discovered, a religion loses its credibility.

https://www.childabuseroyalcommissi...29 - Findings Report - Jehovahs Witnesses.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-members-accused-of-child-abuse-report-says/

 

This exact mentality has been used to justify some of the worst actions humanity has ever known. How can you be okay with that?

And if you can't move? For many people, moving even within the same country is not an option. What's more I doubt it'd be an unknown in your community that you're Atheist, and assuming such a draconian law would ever be put in place someone is going to rat you out. How are you going to move?

 

Who said im ok with that. It is the way it is and there is nothing i or anyone else can do about it.


You asked would i move, i replied to that question. You did not ask "what if you can't move"

 

For subjects and situations like this, apathy is acceptance. If we are to stand for liberty and justice, we cannot simply shrug our shoulders and say "well, that's the law". We need to challenge it, change it, prevent it from happening in practice. Justice is a scale, not a sword, and the moment application of the law starts being wielded as a sword it ceases being justice. It is oppression, and those wielding it the oppressors.

Yes, and I am progressing the example to illustrate why it is wrong. Moving is not easy for everyone, and for some it's not even an option. Furthermore if the government is willing to implement such "laws" that make a belief or state-of-being illegal, then simply existing makes one a pariah and a criminal. You cannot move elsewhere if you're detained because your existence is against the law. And beyond that, you shouldn't have to move elsewhere; such a "law" should not be implemented in the first place.

 

So whst have you done to change the sovereign laws of another country?

I don't really care if you move the goalposts, i have answered your question

So what are you doing about it? Getting on your high horse on an internet forum.

 

It's not moving the goalposts if it's related to the same topic of discussion. Asking how you would move when your very existence is illegal is very relevant, not something completely different.

Now this is moving the goalpost. But to answer, I'm doing what I can; speaking out against stuff like this as I become aware of it, writing to representatives and delegates in the UN, and voting in my own community to ensure as best I can that harmful weaponization of the law like this does not happen here. Is it effective? I don't know. But it's more than shrugging shoulders and saying "it is what it is." We need to not do that. We need to never do that, because we have seen what results from that.

 

Totally opposite id moving the goalposts

Nope its just asking you the same as you want me to answer. And its helping how?

It actually is happening in America, laws are passed diminishing the rights of women. Are you protesting the anti abortion laws or that woman must cover their arms in government buildings?

 

Revelation has been interpreted in many ways. I hear that one method people have used is to look around in the world and try to fit the current events etc into what we read in Revelation. Over the years these interpretations have been seductive for many and seemed correct but have proved to be wrong.
I have not settled on one way to interpret Revelation, but there are others.

 

I don't go through all the interpretations to see. I use other aspects of the scriptures to determine true beliefs.
JWs seem to major on end times prophecy and refuse to admit error when they are obviously wrong. (eg) changing the definition of a generation etc