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Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Green Gaia, Nov 18, 2004.


    PHOTOTAKER Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2006
    so what your saying is that the 144,000 is a start of the people that have salvation?
  2. may

    may Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2004
    As most serious bible students will be aware , the 144,000 started to be gathered back in
    Pentecost 33 C.E. That day, holy spirit was poured out on the apostles and a group of disciples, men and women. (Acts 1:13-15; 2:1-4) and the gathering has gone on .
    Fleshly Israel were no longer Jehovah’s covenant people. (Hebrews 8:7-13) As Jesus had foretold, the privilege of being a part of the Messianic Kingdom was taken from them and given to the 144,000 members of spiritual Israel.—Revelation 7:4-8.
    Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders: "The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits." (Matthew 21:43) That nation, spiritual Israel, is composed of anointed Christians taken into the new covenant.
    The final sealing of the 144,000 will clear the way for the unleashing of the "winds" of destruction against Satan’s wicked system of things on earth. (Revelation 7:1-4)