Wrong Jesus was before creation and the God of creation as shown word for word in the scriptures that disagree with your words that are unsupported by the scriptures (e.g. John 1:1-4; Hebrews 1:1-2,Hebrews 1:8-12 Colossians 1:16 etc). Receive Gods correction and be blessed Soapy. Ignoring Gods'...
Philippians2:5-8
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5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,a]">[a] 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,b]">[b] 7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant,c]">[c] being born...
No. It says Jesus Christ was in the form of God before he was born in the likeness of men. He was born, ate and drank, was tempted, was killed... How can you say he didn't became a human being?
"Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of...
Doesn't the Bible say that God is unchanging? The Bible also says that God is not a man.
Numbers 23:19
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19 God is not man, that he should lie,
or a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Has he said, and will he not do it?
Or has he spoken, and will he not...
Blah blah blah.
Still no quote of Jesus saying "I am God."
Still all those quotes of Jesus which I set out for you saying "I'm not God."
Have a lovely day.
I believe that Jesus is God because that is what the bible says as shown in post # 446 that you refuse to respond to.
Which are your words disagreeing with Gods' Word as shown in post # 446 that you refuse to respond to. For example as posted earlier...
JOHN 1:1-4; 14 1, 1, IN THE BEGINNING...
I’m not at all sure what you are saying. All I see is you quoting verses out of context and dragging a trinitarian ideology with it.
Im sorry for you that you cannot see that none of what you say in those verse matches each other. And if they don’t match then that shows there are high...
I have already explained (many times) that I am not trinitarian. I just assert that a certain view (not my view) is presented in the Gospel of John and Paul's letters. This view is called "high Christology'.
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all...
No. Only when they’re twisted, and other Scriptures ignored.
Keep in mind that Christendom has had 1700 years to alter certain verses to suit their trinitarian agenda. But almost always (though not in every case), the immediate surrounding context (and understanding the Greek grammar) will...
samtonga43 believes that those verses mean that Jesus is God, so I looked up all these verses to see if any of them show that Jesus is God. I see no indications of any such thing but since I did all this work I decided to start a new thread for people to comment upon.
Using your analytical...
I could waste my time going through all those verses but I would only end up proving Jesus is not God -- again. :rolleyes:
I might do it just for fun, if I have time. :D
All you succeed in doing is providing more free advertising for Baha'u'llah. ;)
I already see two verses the refer directly...
It is not I who is dreaming, Tb.
Wake up and read:--
Titus 2:13; Philippians2:5-8; Hebrews 1:8; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17; Revelation 1:7; 2:8; 1 Corinthians 10:4; 1 Peter 5:4; Mark 14:61-62; Daniel 7:13-14; Mark 2:3-12; Matthew 2:11; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38; 20:28;
Matthew...
Jesus chose to limit himself in his humanity when he was on the earth. Even in his limitations, it's implied that Jesus is God because Jesus knew the future. https://carm.org/about-jesus/did-jesus-know-the-future/
Jesus definately knew the future. Being God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Colossians...
Jesus was sent on his mission from heaven. To give his life as a ransom, or set price of redemption. The perfect sinless life that Adam lost for his children was paid in full by the perfect sinless life that God gave his firstborn son. He was "with" his Father as "the Word" "in the...
First, there is no scripture that says Jesus had sins to be washed off. Where did you ever get that from?
Second, what point are you making, regarding these scriptures? I don't understand if you are trying to point out anything in particular.
What do you mean we never learned the name of...
Well, let's have a quick look at the text.
First Mark. Jesus needs to be baptized and only when his sins are washed off him does God adopt him as his son on the model of David becoming God's son in Psalm 2:7 (affirmed Acts 13:33). We never learn the name of his parents, nor was his mother...
Logical fallacy, "Strawman". You are mischaracterizing what I said.
You won't find a single line anywhere in my posts where I do what you just claimed.
Not a single argument/claim I made anywhere in this tread depends on that as an assumption for it's premise. You're welcome to try to find it...