Can someone please explain to me why a "drag show" is suddenly the epitome of evil?

Shadow Wolf · Oct 31, 2022

muichimotsu said:
I doubt they'd have this kind of concern for things we can also have generic paranoid associations of grooming and child abuse to, but are used in performances that entertain kids and have for decades: mascot costumes at Disney parks, clowns, people that use puppets to entertain kids.

Or have the cops come in to get the kids to snitch on their parents for smoking weed. That's grooming kids to destroy families and it happens.

9-10ths_Penguin · Oct 31, 2022

Shaul said:
The article doesn't say which side brought the guns. BTW, what's so wrong about a gun?

Imagine a bunch of gentiles with guns showing up in front of your synagogue and then reflect some more on whether you need to ask this question.

Sand Dancer · Oct 31, 2022

Subduction Zone said:
Really? Just because they put on "women's clothing"?

I hope his wife doesn't wear pants.

Shaul · Oct 31, 2022

9-10ths_Penguin said:
Imagine a bunch of gentiles with guns showing up in front of your synagogue and then reflect some more on whether you need to ask this question.

I don't have to imagine that. It has happened. Doesn't bother me. Now you go and reconsider your irrational hatred of guns.

Sand Dancer · Oct 31, 2022

Terrywoodenpic said:
Pantomimes have always had men dressed up as women. Since the year dot.

All Shakespeare plays originally had all the women played by men.

As was the case for Greek plays.

In the opera many women played Trouser roles and still do.

This has not been a problem for hundreds of years. Neither for adults or children.

In single sex schools, the children have always played both sexes in plays, dance and musicals.

No one is confused.

Why do Republicans suddenly pretend that role reversal is now.?

They think everything they don't like is about morality and sex.

Heyo · Oct 31, 2022

Sand Dancer said:
Yes. I wonder why women were expected to wear dresses anyway. Could it be because it restricted their movements, so they couldn't participate in manly activities? So men could gawk at their legs? So their hoohah would be outlined and elicit lust? Who knows, but IMO, people should wear what they like. Anyway, that's for another thread.

Women were supposed to wear floor-long dresses so that men could not gawk at their legs.

muichimotsu · Oct 31, 2022

Shadow Wolf said:
Or have the cops come in to get the kids to snitch on their parents for smoking weed. That's grooming kids to destroy families and it happens.

It's grooming kids to be slaves, essentially. Obedience as more important than real freedom, ironically

muichimotsu · Oct 31, 2022

Subduction Zone said:
Watching this video I realized that I may have seen her the first year that she and Jed took their evangelist show on the road. She was a hot young thing at that time. What happened?

Stress, which is an unfortunate thing that can lead to more internalized issues for women, who still ironically seem to live longer than their husbands somehow

muichimotsu · Oct 31, 2022

We Never Know said:
What if a person dressed as a preacher, a nun, or the pope and came to read the kids the bible(it is a book)..would that be ok?

LGBT, drag, religion, or what ever.... Why do they want kids as their audience? Why focus on kids?

IMO its to get them while they are young to come over to their line of thinking, to indoctrinate the kids into their view is what its all about.

Lets get them while they are young so they grow to be allies.

What ever happened to let kids be kids? SMH

You're still assuming bad intent on the part of people that are performers in general and equivocating LGBTQ drag and religion together somehow. Seems like you don't think there's any negative intent or influence from TV even though that's more accessible to kids nowadays and likely more prominent as well in their development

You think kids are some blank slate and there's no malleability at all? Not sure that's supported by any child psychology remotely, even if there can be lingering influences, but drag is not telling kids to just question their gender or change it on a whim, that's a strawman

muichimotsu · Oct 31, 2022

Terrywoodenpic said:
Pantomimes have always had men dressed up as women. Since the year dot.

All Shakespeare plays originally had all the women played by men.

As was the case for Greek plays.

In the opera many women played Trouser roles and still do.

This has not been a problem for hundreds of years. Neither for adults or children.

In single sex schools, the children have always played both sexes in plays, dance and musicals.

No one is confused.

Why do Republicans suddenly pretend that role reversal is a problem now.?

Because they rely on their base being so utterly ignorant and proud of it that they can bluff and lie outright about history to suit their agenda

muichimotsu · Oct 31, 2022

Shaul said:
I don't have to imagine that. It has happened. Doesn't bother me. Now you go and reconsider your irrational hatred of guns.

It's not a hatred of guns, it's a disappointment and condemning of gun culture that thinks guns should be the solution to everything, even if only by the threat of their use to get what you want, the tactic of fascists aligned with military ideology

Subduction Zone · Oct 31, 2022

muichimotsu said:
Stress, which is an unfortunate thing that can lead to more internalized issues for women, who still ironically seem to live longer than their husbands somehow

Well that's a relief. I was worried that I might be getting old.

muichimotsu · Oct 31, 2022

Subduction Zone said:
Well that's a relief. I was worried that I might be getting old.

You can be getting old and wiser, but that's not a guarantee for everyone, as we can see.

Wildswanderer · Nov 1, 2022

ImmortalFlame said:
I have dressed up in women's clothes in order to perform particular roles on stage before.

Am I a drag queen?

Probably not, but how do you expect me to know what some random person on the internet is?

ImmortalFlame · Nov 2, 2022

Wildswanderer said:
Probably not, but how do you expect me to know what some random person on the internet is?

So a drag queen isn't just a man wearing women's clothes?

What is it, then?

Terrywoodenpic · Nov 2, 2022

ImmortalFlame said:
So drag queen isn't just a man wearing women's clothes?

What is it, then?

A drag queen It is a performer dressing and acting as a woman.. a man just wearing women's clothes is a cross dresser.
He may identify as male or female.

Shadow Wolf · Nov 2, 2022

Terrywoodenpic said:
A drag queen It is a performer dressing and acting as a woman.. a man just wearing women's clothes is a cross dresser.
He may identify as male or female.

A lot of male drag queens are also straight/attracted to women. Of course lots are also gay, but it's not safe to assume one is either just because he's a drag queen.

Terrywoodenpic · Nov 2, 2022

Shadow Wolf said:
A lot of male drag queens are also straight/attracted to women. Of course lots are also gay, but it's not safe to assume one is either just because he's a drag queen.

Absolutely,
most of them that I have met only do it professionally because they are good at it and it pays well.
When out and about they are mostly married men with families.

However they are all better at shaving than almost anyone else that I have met.

ImmortalFlame · Nov 2, 2022

Terrywoodenpic said:
A drag queen It is a performer dressing and acting as a woman.. a man just wearing women's clothes is a cross dresser.
He may identify as male or female.

See, I would have thought that was closer, but Wildswanderer doesn't seem to agree.

fantome profane · Nov 2, 2022

Brilliant and passionate women.

It is the first 3 minutes and 45 seconds that are the most relevant here, but the rest is interesting too.

What she says 25 seconds in, wow!

Can someone please explain to me why a "drag show" is suddenly the epitome of evil?

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