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What is the one thing human poltergeists do?That make you a believer in them?

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I don't think so. Had I experienced even one single instance of that happening in my 80 years, I would not have said so. But paranormal experiences shun me.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I don't think so. Had I experienced even one single instance of that happening in my 80 years, I would not have said so. But paranormal experiences shun me.
But even that is no rational justification for your statement: There is nothing that can make me believe in paranormal activities.

Every experiencer must have had a first time. You are saying you wouldn't believe your first time even if it happened,

I'm sure you must also understand the error of drawing a conclusion from a sample size of one person. It's not rational.

You are espousing irrational anti-paranormalism.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yeah, it is my view based on my experiences. Your experience may be different.
No ghosts, no aliens. Yes, \Heavenly maidens' used to visit me in my youth in my dreams. Is that what you mean by paranormal experience?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
One does not check every grain of rice to see if it has been cooked well or not. Technically, one should. How does one know that one out of 5,000 grains has not been cooked well! These IMHO, are excuses.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
One does not check every grain of rice to see if it has been cooked well or not. Technically, one should. How does one know that one out of 5,000 grains has not been cooked well! These IMHO, are excuses.
Not sure I see the grains of rice analogy here. Reports of the paranormal are strong in human cultures. One just has to study and consider those cases and reach a consensus judgment.

My point to you was it is irrational to take the position: There is nothing that can make me believe in paranormal activities.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Well I am in the same position, of not believing in such things - not having experienced anything in my life as couldn't be explained by other means. And, as per conspiracy theories and such, I need rather more evidence than has been presented - to me at least. Much like the UFO phenomenon - where information is abundant but not so definitive as to showing us there are truly aliens behind such. :oops:
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
What is the one thing human poltergeists do?That make you a believer in them? :)

To begin with, a poltergeist isn't always a human spirit. Depending on the type of haunting, poltergeist activity could also be caused by a non-human entity, a metaphysical energy tied to a living person who is under a great deal of stress, or a mysterious metaphysical energy that is linked to a specific place. The majority of the poltergeist activity I've witnessed was caused by human spirits who either weren't initially aware that I could visually and mentally see them or who sought to attract attention to themselves or scare the pants off of everyone else around me. What does a human spirit do to make itself known? Well, if the spirit has sufficient energy, it has the ability to push or scratch a living person, yank hair or clothing, pound on walls or doors, turn on and off lights, turn on and off water features, and move, toss, and bang objects. I've been pushed a few times, but I was never harmed by a spirit because I don't provoke.
 
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Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
I don't think so. Had I experienced even one single instance of that happening in my 80 years, I would not have said so. But paranormal experiences shun me.
“One single instance”, me neither.
But What if it were many instances?
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
To begin with, a poltergeist isn't always a human spirit. Depending on the type of haunting, poltergeist activity could also be caused by a non-human entity, a metaphysical energy tied to a living person who is under a great deal of stress, or a mysterious metaphysical energy that is linked to a specific place. The majority of the poltergeist activity I've witnessed was caused by human spirits who either weren't initially aware that I could visually and mentally see them or who sought to attract attention to themselves or scare the pants off of everyone else around me. What does a human spirit do to make itself known? Well, if the spirit has sufficient energy, it has the ability to push or scratch a living person, yank hair or clothing, pound on walls or doors, turn on and off lights, turn on and off water features, and move, toss, and bang objects. I've been pushed a few times, but I was never harmed by a spirit because I don't provoke.
I’ve had some hesitation and trepidation in responding to your posts on this subject — I don’t want to offend you or bring you any harm — but here goes….
These spirits were / are completely aware of what they were / are doing! They have more than sufficient energy, they just act like they don’t,
IMO!

It is just a big, “misleading / deceiveth” game to them, to cause more confusion and reinforce false beliefs of the dead (Revelation 12:9). In fact, as the Scripture informs us, it’s a global conspiracy.

I don’t think you’re completely aware of the intelligence & motives behind these invisible forces.
Please be careful in your endeavors!

It’s not a coincidence that the Bible links the power behind “magic”, “omens” and “sorcery” with “inquiring of the dead”!
— Deuteronomy 18:10-12
 
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Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I’ve had some hesitation and trepidation in responding to your posts on this subject — I don’t want to offend you or bring you any harm — but here goes….
These spirits were completely aware of what they were / are doing! They have more than sufficient energy, they just act like they don’t,
IMO!

It is just a big, “misleading” game to them, to cause more confusion and reinforce false beliefs of the dead (Revelation 12:9). In fact, as the Scripture informs us, it’s a global conspiracy.

I don’t think you’re completely aware of the intelligence & motives behind these invisible forces.
Please be careful in your endeavors!

It’s not a coincidence that the Bible links the power behind “magic”, “omens” and “sorcery” with “inquiring of the dead”!
— Deuteronomy 18:10-12

I understand your viewpoint on this topic, Hockey Cowboy, but I don't share it. I don't accept what the Bible says about the afterlife—or anything else, for that matter, as I've stated in prior posts. I don't discuss my paranormal encounters in an effort to debate with others or convince others to accept them as real. People are free to believe or disbelieve what I have to say regarding my interactions with the spirit world as a medium and as a paranormal investigator. The reason why I post about my experiences as a medium and post threads about my investigations is so that I can give other people who don't have these abilities the chance to experience what I see. I won't go any further into this subject with you since I do not want to argue with you about it, and this is a non-debate forum.
 
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Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I may have had some paranormal experiences, but even if I certainly didn't, I would still be a believer in the paranormal from the quantity, quality and consistency of evidence from others I consider competent.

George, I appreciate your open-minded approach to the paranormal, and I appreciate your enthusiasm and insight as well.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I don't think so. Had I experienced even one single instance of that happening in my 80 years, I would not have said so. But paranormal experiences shun me.

I understand your sentiment about not wanting to tell anyone if you experienced something paranormal. I felt that way for many years, and it was very lonely for me. I'm glad that psychic mediums and paranormal beliefs are now more widely accepted in society.
 
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