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Would you accept a Prophet?

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Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
 
Hermit Philosopher

Hermit Philosopher

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Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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Depends on the prophet. If their personality properly fits the bill (to me), then perhaps. Yet, it would probably not change me or my way of life much.


Humbly
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Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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I accept all prophets from Adam to Muhammad.
And even find much of the Bab and Baha’u’llah to have said much wisdom
 
danieldemol

danieldemol

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Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?
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What is a Prophet exactly, is it the word for word dictator of God's Word? If so then not without good evidence they actually are revealer of God's word - that evidence being non-existant so far.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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No it says to the men who claim to speak for God stfu as rightfully should be done where claims to be word for word dictators of God's will can't be substantiated.

In my opinion.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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Many believers in the abrahamic religions accept prophets of the past, and a few even of the present.

I, personally, have no need or use of them. Truth stands or falls on it's own regardless of the source.
 
Brian2

Brian2

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danieldemol said:
What is a Prophet exactly, is it the word for word dictator of God's Word? If so then not without good evidence they actually are revealer of God's word - that evidence being non-existant so far.


No it says to the men who claim to speak for God stfu as rightfully should be done where claims to be word for word dictators of God's will can't be substantiated.

In my opinion.
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The OT prophets provided the evidence that they were true prophets or they would not have been called true prophets in the OT.
Jesus provided evidence that He was a true prophet by also being correct and God provided evidence by raising Him from the dead and performing miracles through Him.
 
Mock Turtle

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
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Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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Bit of a conundrum - that any God might have given us the ability for discerning truth from fiction and then given us a nasty issue upon which to use such - the word of just another human supposedly telling us S/He is a messenger from God (actually, why no She?), when so many appear to be and are just false messengers, and where these can be explained quite rationally as to why they might be such. Plus the fact that we have adequate explanations as to how and why religions originate so as to complicate the business somewhat. Like why would we need a multitude of different faiths when they do tend to cause strife and conflict. Hence why some of us no doubt just see the likelihood of one or more messengers as being just too far-fetched.

So, answer to OP - no I don't, and why would I?
 
Rival

Rival

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Depends what you mean by prophet as my faith hasn't Abrahamic style prophets.
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

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Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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I think the trick is in trying to distinguish between a purported prophet and a genuine prophet.

I haven't found a way yet to establish that a prophet is genuine, and self-declared "prophets" are a dime a dozen.
 
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Jack11

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The head of the LDS Church is a so called prophet the LDS has prophets all over the place it got so bad they had to try to rein them in. The LDS use to claim that the prophet spoke to God on a daily basis in regular conversation.The whole church is based on the prophet who is head of the church. Lots of rogue prophets in the LDS. A so called Christian Church with a prophet as its head.
 
Katzpur

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Sedim Haba said:
Would you accept a Prophet?

For all Abrahamic faiths it seems to me the answer is no.

Which is really weird, that all seem to say to G-d.... stfu
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I agree that what you said is true -- about what they appear to be saying to God. For this reason, to me, believing in a prophet is entirely logical. And therefore, I do believe in one. I think it's absurd to think God would ever say, "Just read the book. I can't be bothered to comment or to amend it when times change."
 
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Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
Hermit Philosopher said:
Depends on the prophet. If their personality properly fits the bill (to me), then perhaps. Yet, it would probably not change me or my way of life much.
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The primary purpose of a prophet is a call for reflection and repentance.
You might not have the fault that the prophet speaks out against, but what
if you do?

RestlessSoul said:
Luke and Matthew both say no…

Luke 4:24
Matthew 13:57
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But that's not quite the same thing, that comments more on 'familiarity breeds contempt'
than acceptance or rejection of the status of a current active prophet

Seeker of White Light said:
I accept all prophets from Adam to Muhammad.
And even find much of the Bab and Baha’u’llah to have said much wisdom
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As do I. However as I've previously noted here, a prophet addresses specific issues for a
specific audience. No other group has the same path, obligations, or failings in those.
 
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Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
danieldemol said:
What is a Prophet exactly, is it the word for word dictator of God's Word? If so then not without good evidence they actually are revealer of God's word - that evidence being non-existant so far..
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That is a strange phrase... 'dictator of God's Word'

A true prophet invents nothing, but merely points to what's already been revealed
teaching and spells out the coming consequences of non-compliance.

Brian2 said:
The OT prophets provided the evidence that they were true prophets or they would not have been called true prophets in the OT.
Jesus provided evidence that He was a true prophet by also being correct and God provided evidence by raising Him from the dead and performing miracles through Him.
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That's past prophets. I'm speaking about the possibility of current prophets.
There's laws and tests for prophets in the Torah. But nowhere there does it
say there will be any circumstances for an end of prophets.

It may very well be the reluctance and hubris of modern man keeps prophets from being.

...and who would say we don't need them in this blood-drenched world?
 
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Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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The OT prophets provided the evidence that they were true prophets or they would not have been called true prophets in the OT.
Jesus provided evidence that He was a true prophet by also being correct and God provided evidence by raising Him from the dead and performing miracles through Him.
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Why should I believe the Bible? Because the Bible tells me so? Wouldn't that be circular reasoning?

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MyM

MyM

Well-Known Member
Sedim Haba said:
The primary purpose of a prophet is a call for reflection and repentance.
You might not have the fault that the prophet speaks out against, but what
if you do?



But that's not quite the same thing, that comments more on 'familiarity breeds contempt'
than acceptance or rejection of the status of a current active prophet



As do I. However as I've previously noted here, a prophet addresses specific issues for a
specific audience. No other group has the same path, obligations, or failings in those.
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In Islam, the reason why Allah has sent prophets and messengers with messages, is because mankind kept going away from the truth-the truth of the oneness of Allah. They worshipped idols and things which their own hands created. They committed atrocities, sexual indecencies, and disobeyed each message that was sent. In Islam, we are told that Mohammad is the last messenger to mankind and the message is that of the Quran and Hadith.
 
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Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
MyM said:
In Islam, the reason why Allah has sent prophets and messengers with messages, is because mankind kept going away from the truth-the truth of the oneness of Allah. They worshipped idols and things which their own hands created. They committed atrocities, sexual indecencies, and disobeyed each message that was sent. In Islam, we are told that Mohammad is the last messenger to mankind and the message is that of the Quran and Hadith.
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So then there is no free will in Islam?
 
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