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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
With that I'd say for me I use "I am a gay woman." It says that attraction (physical or not) is a part of being human but it's used as an adjective to describe a part of myself than a noun to define me.

Aka:
I'm a gay person. I'm a creative person. I'm a expressive person.

But I'm not defined by my attraction so I don't identify as a lesbian...

Bouncing my thoughts to the OP from your comment
Actually, I find both the OP with @Meow Mix and also your reply @Unveiled Artist very interesting.
In discussion it does not cross my mind what sexual preferences a person has, nor is it any problem for me :)
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
What do you find sexy in a woman? With me, I think it's mainly the good old hip/waist ratio (no points for originality) - and the eyes. I'm intrigued to see if lesbians look for the same things as men do, or whether their criteria for physical attraction are radically different.

I notice hip/waiste ratio too. Face structure and eyes are next big one (I'm attracted to feminine bodies and faces, not so much masculine women). I prefer women around the same height. Breast shape is more important than breast size, but I do check em out, and there's such a thing as too much. I like a good heart shaped booty.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Ooo I didn't know!

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Hmm, it seems like a "brute fact" sort of question. Why are we physiologically attracted to women? Well, why do I like cheese, and why do I not like hot spicy foods? It seems like it's just some kind of brute fact about how our bodies and preferences respond to stimuli. I can't control that I don't like hot spicy foods, I can't control that I find women attractive in the same way.

I would say that I do not know what she meant by "our biology can morally identify the sex of others," I don't know what morality has to do with it per se.

She was having trouble figuring out how physiological sex response A (say tingles) work with opposite sex but not same sex.

Our biology reacts differently based on the sex of the person and not our physiology is the gist.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Honestly, I do not see you as "Lesbian" or "not Lesbian" I see you as a human being, so I kind of do not have any specific question because you add the label "Lesbian" :)

You are just a sweet loving human being to me.

I don't think the label's important either, the post was mostly out of boredom and for funsies. I recognize people post to RF from around the world that may not even know a single lesbian though, so I thought hey, maybe this dumb little post could actually be constructive too?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I don't think the label's important either, the post was mostly out of boredom and for funsies. I recognize people post to RF from around the world that may not even know a single lesbian though, so I thought hey, maybe this dumb little post could actually be constructive too?
After reading many of the replies you gotten, I think it is a very good thread :) And yes there is a thing or two to learn from it
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Assuming that you are a devote of "The L Word (and gen Q)" who is your favorite character? Which would be your 'type'? And who killed Jenny Schecter?

I did watch the show, but the only character's name I remember is Shane; if I remember right, she was more of a tomboy with the dark hair. I did like her, but I recall being more physically attracted to others (it was more about Shane's personality kinda?); I just don't remember the details of the show. I think, if I remember things right, there was a deaf character I started identifying with after my accident that rendered me aphonic (and her girlfriend was a JERK, boooooo), so that made her really attractive to me. That had to have been 2005-2006 that I watched that because I remember it was fresh after.

I guess I just don't remember too much about it. I also have some memory problems from the accident too, so, that could be a thing.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Why don't you like men?
We are so good at carrying out the trash.

I adore and cherish the men in my life!

But I assume you mean like as in like-like. I think this is a brute-fact sort of question: why do I like sea salted dark chocolate? Why don't I like tomato sauce? I just do, and I just don't.

I can find men aesthetically pleasing, but it just doesn't lead to physiological arousal. Same with masculine women, I'm sort of just attracted to feminine women. The closest I've come to being attracted to men is if they have feminine features in some aspects (like maybe Johnny Depp at a certain point).

I did go through periods when I was younger where I tried very earnestly to be straight (because I was in the closet, in a small town, feeling a lot of self-loathing for being different). I had a couple of sexual encounters with young men at the time (though I have still never had actual, penetrative sex with a man). I remember this about it:

I am not disgusted by men. It's just neutral. I remember feeling slightly aroused, but it was more that I was aroused by their arousal than the fact that they were a man, or by their masculinity, or their physiology (and there is actually research that shows women tend to be aroused by arousal no matter whom it's coming from). I was never aroused or attracted to them as men. It wasn't until I started dating women that I was like "oh, this is what arousal really is. Okay."
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I don't get this reference, but I assume he's wherever Carmen Sandiego is! (Used to crush on her in the animated show back in the day <3)

A British lord who disappeared when he was suspected of murder. Big mystery in the UK.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Several years ago, I used to teach an evening Anatomy class for non-traditional (i.e., adult) students. After the final exam, I would usually go out to a local pub with a few of them. One year, one of the female students that attended the post-exam drinkage was a lesbian, and we (me, her, and 3 other men) 'woman-watched' for about an hour, comparing what we liked/didn't like and such - a purely academic exercise, you see. She looked for pretty much the same things the men did. Also, one of my former co-workers was a lesbian, and she made it clear that she liked/looked for certain things in a potential mate/partner, again pretty much what men tend to look for. That's a mere N=2, so take it with a grain of salt, but I thought it was interesting.

I've had much the same experience with lesbians I have hung out with. So you can take that to N=4 (those I have discussed this with).

That said, there are many straight men that don't have the same tastes as I do. For example, I prefer small breasts to large ones.

Make it N=5, I people watch with the guys and we make similar observations. I do have some more focus on height and faces/eyes, mannerisms, posture, how she conducts herself, etc.; but I still check out the same stuff the bois do.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Is there any male, in real life or fiction, that you might consider as an exception?
I ask because I am totally heterosexual, but I think there would be a couple of girls I would probably make an exception for.

If you know what I mean with "exception", which I am sure you do.

Ciao

- viole

Hmm, I think maybe? I've joked that I'd sleep with Patrick Stewart if he asked, but it's just a joke due to how amazing that man is, I'm not really physically attracted to him.

If I were to answer seriously, I found Johnny Depp attractive for a little bit, possibly enough to be slightly curious. But I think it's because he's had some roles where he had feminine features and the like.

As I said in another post I recently made, I don't feel any kind of disgust with men or their bodies. It's just like a big neutral thing. So I guess that means if I really, really liked a man enough, and they had enough feminine features to lead to a bit of a physical attraction, maybe I could make it work. I'm not sure. I feel like I'm on the far end of the Kinsey scale but are any of us really at 100% or 0%? I honestly don't know.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Maybe you can help me recall the name of a term described to me by a lesbian couple at the dog park. She said it refers to how often and quickly lesbian relationships become asexual.

Never mind - I just stumbled onto it by chance. I leave this here and ask you to comment on this phenomenon if you like. The link addresses the phenomenon, but perhaps you can add some insight into why this phenomenon should affect this demographic more than others: Lesbian bed death - Wikipedia

There are a lot of weird lesbian culture things, and I think it has more to do with culture than biology (e.g. I think this is related to gendered cultural differences and not biological stuff about women). For instance, the whole U-haul thing we've already joked about a couple of times in this thread (for those unfamiliar, the joke is that lesbians get a U-haul and move in together on the second date).

I think it's easy to fall into a "lesbian culture" because it's hard to meet people except at gay bars and the like, or through subcultures where bisexuality and lesbianism are more socially acceptable. So we might meet someone, might even date them, or take them home, but sometimes instead of never seeing them again we become friends or acquaintances. So lesbians tend to end up in lesbian herds (ha!). And that, I think, leads to having a culture, and having a culture tends to lead to weird commonalities.

I don't really know. I've had long term relationships and maintained healthy sex habits throughout, so I've never experienced bed death. I don't think I can be helpful on this one; but I do suspect some of these things come from the fact that lesbianism becomes cultural.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I adore and cherish the men in my life!

But I assume you mean like as in like-like. I think this is a brute-fact sort of question: why do I like sea salted dark chocolate? Why don't I like tomato sauce? I just do, and I just don't.

I can find men aesthetically pleasing, but it just doesn't lead to physiological arousal. Same with masculine women, I'm sort of just attracted to feminine women. The closest I've come to being attracted to men is if they have feminine features in some aspects (like maybe Johnny Depp at a certain point).

I did go through periods when I was younger where I tried very earnestly to be straight (because I was in the closet, in a small town, feeling a lot of self-loathing for being different). I had a couple of sexual encounters with young men at the time (though I have still never had actual, penetrative sex with a man). I remember this about it:

I am not disgusted by men. It's just neutral. I remember feeling slightly aroused, but it was more that I was aroused by their arousal than the fact that they were a man, or by their masculinity, or their physiology (and there is actually research that shows women tend to be aroused by arousal no matter whom it's coming from). I was never aroused or attracted to them as men. It wasn't until I started dating women that I was like "oh, this is what arousal really is. Okay."

Kinda like... This is normal. Where's my keys? Until someone points it out when you just near forget to really call any attention (until that woman...)
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
A couple of lesbian friends have told me that one advantage to their friendships with men who acknowledge LGBT people is that there is no doubt whatsoever that the friendship is platonic and no possibility of developing feelings for their friends, and vice versa

Do you share this sentiment? I think it makes sense, myself, and this specific advantage can make some things less awkward in certain friendships. :D
 
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