Phaedrus
Active Member
Another insightful article from the perspective of the non-believer.
I Am Unapologetically Raising My Daughter Without Religion
I Am Unapologetically Raising My Daughter Without Religion
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Mom unapologetically raising kid without religion
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Big deal.
Come to Europe, come to the U.K., most kids are raised without religion. I guess all that means is it's time for me to move.
70% of young Brits are 'not religious'
Come to Europe, come to the U.K., most kids are raised without religion. I guess all that means is it's time for me to move.
70% of young Brits are 'not religious'
Darkforbid
Well-Known Member
'suggest that raising your children with secular morality is highly beneficial, saying that these children are “less vengeful, less nationalistic, less militaristic, less authoritarian, and more tolerant.'
So a non-religious upbringing makes you more sheep like
So a non-religious upbringing makes you more sheep like
I would call it less egotistical and judgmental, but to-may-to/to-mah-to. *shrugs*
Phaedrus
Active Member
The great thing about an evolving society is that one day, science willing, the states will be just as non-religiously enlightened.
Then the irreligious can get on with just as dogmatically infighting with each other over misappropriations of 'logic' and 'science' re: whatever their preconceived notion already holds.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Really? Less nationalistic, less militaristic and less authoritarian suggest the exact opposite to me.
(not that I accept the simple binary distinction of “religious” or “non-religious” upbringing anyway)
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
Time for you to move? What a strange thing to say.
Where I live, I am surrounded by Christians. Absolutely surrounded. Small town USA in every direction. Do you think I can't tolerate their presence as easily as taking a stroll on a sunny day? Do you think I have even one iota of angst about the situation? As far as I am concerned, they walk around in a fog. I find it sad, but it certainly doesn't keep me up at night.
It's not that they're not religious, it's that their being not religious and my belonging to a very niche faith makes it impossible for me to find a partner and difficult to find friends as our hobbies, what we want to discuss and so on are very different and often at odds.
I do not disapprove exactly, but the wording sounds a bit naive to me.
Religion is not entirely avoidable IMO, nor is it at all incompatible with or opposed to atheism. That is a common, but very mistaken assumption.
But most of all, it seems to me that awaress of religion is very much a good thing, among other reasons as a defense against gross indoctrination and as a valuable reflection on anthropological subject matter.
It can be no small help to the religious formation of the theists around them, as well; they too will no doubt benefit from being aware of how varied faith stances can be.
Such grasping ability. Have you considered a career on straw harvesting?
You go, mom. Do what moms have always done -- react to whatever you see as a threat. As always there will be regrets and things you have overlooked, because there is no manual. As long as you do your best you can comfort yourself with this when your child grows up and blames you for their problems.
Come to think of it, a lot of the significance there depends on the environment.
Some societies have a real challenge even accepting that a mother might want to keep her child away from religion. Others might have a hard time noticing that the intent is there.
And, I suppose, many more will end up signaling to their children that some people are somewhat weird due to having a not-quite-acceptable level of interest in matters of religious significance and therefore should be treated differently.
There is a lot of disconfort being kept under the surface in many communities, isn't there? How many of us have a brother, cousin or other relative that at some point made us roll our eyes due to adopting beliefs that we don't quite know what to make of?
Some societies have a real challenge even accepting that a mother might want to keep her child away from religion. Others might have a hard time noticing that the intent is there.
And, I suppose, many more will end up signaling to their children that some people are somewhat weird due to having a not-quite-acceptable level of interest in matters of religious significance and therefore should be treated differently.
There is a lot of disconfort being kept under the surface in many communities, isn't there? How many of us have a brother, cousin or other relative that at some point made us roll our eyes due to adopting beliefs that we don't quite know what to make of?
Altfish
Veteran Member
I raised my kids without religion; I didn't stop them being exposed to it ... school, Brownies and the like ... but if they asked me, I just said, "God is made up"
My children are now raising their kids without religion. God doesn't enter their lives, although when they get to school it will do.
In the UK religion (Especially Judaeo Christian) is in terminal decline.
My children are now raising their kids without religion. God doesn't enter their lives, although when they get to school it will do.
In the UK religion (Especially Judaeo Christian) is in terminal decline.
My kids chose for themselves. Both twins went to sunday school for a while in the UK. First one decided not to go any more, the stories did not make sense and were boring. A few months later the other left. All his friends still attended but he had decided it was not for him.
The youngest decided no right from the start.
My kids, don't ya just love em?
The youngest decided no right from the start.
My kids, don't ya just love em?
Darkforbid
Well-Known Member
I find that quite sad.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
Militaristic, nationalistic, vengeful, intolerant and authoritarian people are the very definition of ''sheeps''. The will of such a person is dominated by that of their superior in the military hierarchy, their leaders (political and religious) in civil society and a very narrow and isolationist group of allies to which loyalty is paramount under penalty of death (or something similarly severe). If you are a person with such values and you don't sit at the absolute top of the pyramid, you are nothing else then a ''sheep'', a soldier, who simply waits his turn to slaughter or be slaughter for the benefit of someone else and at the orders of someone else without question. The problem is that the more a society is militaristic, vengeful, nationalist, authoritarian and intolerent, the narrower the pyramid is up to the point where there is only one person at the top with legions of ''sheeps'' underneath to execute his or her whims all the while claiming htey are for the benefits of others (who are conveniantly not allowed to speak).
You'll get over it
