Why is it ok for USA

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

Revoltingest said:
Some of their citizens have caused trouble though.

And their government urges us to attack Iran.
With allies like them, who needs enemies, eh?

Some problems aren't solved by waging war against the country de jour in our sights.

The identities of 6 of the suicide bombers is still unknown.

KSA has been under attack from jihadis in Yemen for more than 20 years.. AQ moved in from Afghanistan and since then ISIS, Boko Haram, al Shabaaz and the al Houthis are active.

For years and years both Israel and Iran have threatened to bomb SaudiARAMCO's oil facilities in Ras Tanura and Jubail.

Revoltingest · Jun 22, 2019

sooda said:
The identities of 6 of the suicide bombers is still unknown.

KSA has been under attack from jihadis in Yemen for more than 20 years.. AQ moved in from Afghanistan and since then ISIS, Boko Haram, al Shabaaz and the al Houthis are active.

For years and years both Israel and Iran have threatened to bomb SaudiARAMCO's oil facilities in Ras Tanura and Jubail.

And Saudi Arabia & USA have threatened Iran.
Threats abound in the region.
They'd all benefit from some tolerance & negotiation.

As for the identities of the terrorists....
Hijackers in the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia
....we definitely see that Saudis were heavily involved.

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

Revoltingest said:
And Saudi Arabia & USA have threatened Iran.
Threats abound in the region.
They'd all benefit from some tolerance & negotiation.

No they haven't threatened Iran. Iran has NOTHING the Saudis want.

For 20 years KSA has opposed HAMAS and Hezbollah as obstacles to peace.

King Abdullah was furious when Syria murdered Rafic Hariri. He did only good things for Lebanon.

Revoltingest · Jun 22, 2019

sooda said:
No they haven't threatened Iran. Iran has NOTHING the Saudis want.

For 20 years KSA has opposed HAMAS and Hezbollah as obstacles to peace.

King Abdullah was furious when Syria murdered Rafic Hariri. He did only good things for Lebanon.

We'll have to agree to disagree about Saudi Arabia threatening Iran.
U.S. Blames Iran For Tanker Attacks As Saudi Arabia Threatens 'Grave Consequences' (Updated)

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

Revoltingest said:
And Saudi Arabia & USA have threatened Iran.
Threats abound in the region.
They'd all benefit from some tolerance & negotiation.

As for the identities of the terrorists....
Hijackers in the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia
....we definitely see that Saudis were heavily involved.

Six of the hijackers had stolen identities so we don't know. Since 1950 so many Saudi students have been educated in the US that is been much, much easier for a Saudi to get a US visa than for any other Arab country.

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

Revoltingest said:
We'll have to agree to disagree about Saudi Arabia threatening Iran.
U.S. Blames Iran For Tanker Attacks As Saudi Arabia Threatens 'Grave Consequences' (Updated)

Iran attacked Saudi tankers in 2018 as well.. That does not make KSA guilty,

Remember the bombing of the USS Cole?

Stanyon · Jun 22, 2019

The world would be so much safer if everyone had nuclear weapons.

Revoltingest · Jun 22, 2019

sooda said:
Iran attacked Saudi tankers in 2018 as well.. That does not make KSA guilty,

It is a threat nonetheless.
(One of many.)

Remember the bombing of the USS Cole?

I had to look it up.
Remember the USS Liberty?
(This is fun.)

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

Revoltingest said:
It is a threat nonetheless.
(One of many.)

I had to look it up.
Remember the USS Liberty?
(This is fun.)

You don't know the Sudeiri Seven.. I do.

Dangerous Waters: The Situation in the Bab el-Mandeb Strait
cimsec.org/dangerous-waters-situation-bab-el-mandeb-strait/29508
Nov 21, 2016 · Dangerous Waters: The Situation in the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. The USS Mason and USS Ponce both came under attack by assailants of unconfirmed origin, forcing the warships to deploy anti-missile countermeasures and prompting U.S. forces to launch cruise missile strikes against targets in

Revoltingest · Jun 22, 2019

Stanyon said:
The world would be so much safer if everyone had nuclear weapons.

Or we should just conquer everyone, & then (as was
suggested here) keep our boots on their necks.

Peace is complicated.
It's never total...that would require a single authoritarian regime which
keeps everyone rigidly in line....sort of like China's domestic agenda.
A workable less than perfect peace would be optimum.
Getting there wouldn't be served by Ameristan's continually attacking
mid-east countries. We must first clean up our own act.

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

Curbing Houthi attacks on civilian ships in the Bab al-Mandab
www.trackpersia.com/curbing-houthi-attacks-civilian-ships-bab-al-mandab
Aug 01, 2018 · In addition to strikes targeting U.S., Saudi, and Emirati warships in 2016-2017, the Arsan incident is one of several threats and attacks that the Houthis have directed at civilian shipping near the Bab al-Mandab: Drone boat attack on oil terminal, June 16, 2017.

sooda · Jun 22, 2019

‘Bab Al Mandab attack threatens international security’
https://gulfnews.com/world/gulf/yemen/bab-al-mandab-attack-threatens-international...
The vessel, an Australian-built high speed logistics catamaran under lease to the United Arab Emirates military, was attacked by Al Houthi fighters near the Bab Al Mandab strait off Yemen’s ...

Spirit of Light · Jun 22, 2019

sooda said:
That's up to Iran.

Is it? It is Trump who all the time now say threats toward Iran, As far as know from media, Iran has only defended their own country from USA spying on them. If i am correct that is something Iran is in title to, (of course, as long the drone was within their territory

Spirit of Light · Jun 22, 2019

Nowhere Man said:
What do you mean? A lot of countries have nuclear weapons now.

I can not prove it, but i have heard different countries have been buying weapon from each others, also nuclear weapon. I would not be surprised if Norway (my birth country) has this kind of weapons too.

Spirit of Light · Jun 22, 2019

dybmh said:
#1 reason: USA allows **more** transparency. Iran is virtually non-transparent.

there are other reasons. but this lack of transparency is the most important.

USA is transparent now? From media it look like Trump is trying to be as hidden as possible and not want anyone to speak. Of course i do not live there so i can be mistaken

Spirit of Light · Jun 22, 2019

Flame said:
I don't. There would still be conflicts with the Kurds and Turks, Houthis are ramping up, Taliban is growing again, Israeli and Palestinians relations are still rock bottom, ISIS are still out in the desert and have sleeper cells in various nations and the Syrian war still be going on.

So in your view, USA is the only nation that can stop terror?

leov · Jun 22, 2019

Amanaki said:
Why is it ok for USA to have nuclear weapons but they tell everyone else it is not ok?
Example with Iran, Why can USA keep their weapons but Iran can become nuked by USA if they do not get rid of their nuclear weapon? where is the logic?

Because US is wise and kind. Seriously, this weapon can end life on Earth, it is good idea to limit this kind of toys.. science is still too immature and let greedy people have nukes.

Flame · Jun 22, 2019

Amanaki said:
So in your view, USA is the only nation that can stop terror?

Where did I say that? I was pointing out that conflicts would still be going on regardless of US intervention or not.

FYI I'm a strict defensive war proponent.

Spirit of Light · Jun 22, 2019

leov said:
Because US is wise and kind. Seriously, this weapon can end life on Earth, it is good idea to limit this kind of toys.. science is still too immature and let greedy people have nukes.

US is wise and kind? Yes people in Amerika is good, But not the politicians, they are rotten as hell (just like in most other countries)

Spirit of Light · Jun 22, 2019

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Flame said:
Where did I say that? I was pointing out that conflicts would still be going on regardless of US intervention or not.

FYI I'm a strict defensive war proponent.

Sorry i may have misunderstood you.
But i do hope America can pull their troops back soon.

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