Church Planting

shmogie said:

So ? Faith based meant by any religion. It is Christian groups who respond to disasters, and provide a whole range of services to those who require it.

As far as I can tell, the Muslims and Hinduś are missing in action on this front.

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It’s a no-brainer that Bush meant conservative Christianity. Probably all he knows about Hinduism is that we have funny looking gods (false gods, I might add ) and wear red dots on our foreheads. Moreover, Christians are commanded by Jesus and duty-bound to render aid.

shmogie said:

When Christ said ¨ I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me¨ He sent his followers out to preach his message, because, literally, it is a matter of life and death.

He made it clear He loves all of humanity, no matter how wretched or sinful..

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Now, we have something to talk. In my understanding "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me¨ is not a call to go out and preach. It is an exhortation to go in and know "I am". Be the "I am" instead of being a body or a mere label.

If you equate "I am the way" with "Jesus alone is the way", then where is God's omnipresence?
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atanu said:

Evangelism is actually business.

https://philanthropy.iupui.edu/files/file/sarah_hammond_final_dissertation_april2010.pdf

Groups such as the Christian Business Men’s Committee International (CBMCI), the Business Men’s Evangelistic Clubs (BMEC), and the Gideons believed that businessmen were God’s instruments to Christianize the world. As salesmen, they saw themselves a cadre of expert manipulators.15 If they could convince the masses to buy their products, then they must try to bend them to God’s will. According to the BMEC’s Vernon W. Patterson, an early patron of Billy Graham, “In business, [the layman] is accustomed to promote the sale and distribution of merchandise or commodities of all kinds...[W]hy should not such systematic planning be extended to carry the gospel to the ends of the earth?”16 Following nineteenth-century precedent, the CBMCI in the North, Midwest, West, and Canada, and the BMEC in the South furnished money and personnel for a range of evangelistic programs.

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shmogie said:

So ?

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So? So, where is spirituality?

atanu said:

So? So, where is spirituality?

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atanu said:

So? So, where is spirituality?

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This is a dissertation. It is rife with opinion, not facts. Most dissertations in the social sciences are the same way

Spirituality ? How exactly can you read someones mind and determine their spirituality ?

People make mistakes all the time ( not Hinduś ?) and if any of these endeavors are from the wrong motivation or act improperly, they will be held accountable by God.

atanu said:

Now, we have something to talk. In my understanding "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me¨ is not a call to go out and preach. It is an exhortation to go in and know "I am". Be the "I am" instead of being a body or a mere label.

If you equate "I am the way" with "Jesus alone is the way", then where is God's omnipresence?
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Sorry, but your exegesis is wrong. I AM, a term Christ used a number of times is hugely significant. It goes all the way back to Moses interaction with God, when God said ¨ I am who I am¨

Further, Christ said, ¨go therefore and preach the Gospel to the world ¨ ( paraphrase) He also said that He had other sheep, not of this flock ( His followers) and that they were to be brought into His flock.

I haven´t a clue what you mean by Gods omnipresence. Christ and Christian beliefs do not affect that, at all

I would be happy if all religions led to God, but they do not. Christ made this oh so very clear. Christians are responsible for seeing that as many of His children as possible come to him, for life, not death.

Jainarayan said:

It’s a no-brainer that Bush meant conservative Christianity. Probably all he knows about Hinduism is that we have funny looking gods (false gods, I might add ) and wear red dots on our foreheads. Moreover, Christians are commanded by Jesus and duty-bound to render aid.

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Yep, your last sentence is totally correct.

Do any of your gods command concern and assistance to your fellow humans ?

shmogie said:

Yep, your last sentence is totally correct.

Do any of your gods command concern and assistance to your fellow humans ?

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No. We get no commandments from God or any deva. We don’t need them. God gives freely, so we try to follow his example. It’s part of the concept of ahimsa, non-violence. It’s more a cultural and societal thing rather than religious.

shmogie said:

Sorry, but your exegesis is wrong. I AM, a term Christ used a number of times is hugely significant. It goes all the way back to Moses interaction with God, when God said ¨ I am who I am¨

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For every religion God says this.

Further, Christ said, ¨go therefore and preach the Gospel to the world ¨ ( paraphrase) He also said that He had other sheep, not of this flock ( His followers) and that they were to be brought into His flock.

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Can you show the verse where Jesus says ‘go therefore...’.

I do not think God will tell you ‘Go therefore...’. To whom was it told?

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I haven´t a clue what you mean by Gods omnipresence. Christ and Christian beliefs do not affect that, at all

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Omnipresence means there is no place or no time where/when God is not.

I would be happy if all religions led to God, but they do not. Christ made this oh so very clear. Christians are responsible for seeing that as many of His children as possible come to him, for life, not death.

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It is simply the immature cheap ego that makes some Christians boast so.

Why should God care only for egotists?
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And THIS IS THE main objection to Christian missionaries. You think you are superior to others.

You are just ignorant egotists.